Good or Bad EJ

[Astrosdawg07]

Copied from my report.

A JV vs. B JV 3/29/10 @ B

Over the course of the game the A dugout while at bat had been saying various things from the dugout in reference to not only the ball but as well as Harold ------ (Home Plate Umpire) regarding his strike zone. These things started civil (Where was that pitch, dirty ball, etc.). However towards the last half of the game they began saying things such as piss on the ball, at which time Harold called the coach aside and issued a team warning. This occurred once more and Harold again told the coach; who then walked to his dugout and got onto them. During this same half inning I myself I had told the A dugout to chirp down. I then began to hear sexual references from the dugout, however these were very low and only I could hear them. Also not knowing who exactly was saying these things, then at one point #7 yelled very loudly rub that ball like a dirty old man. At that point # 7 was ejected from the game and the A HC was informed.

Edited March 30, 2010 by AChesnut

[Paperipper17]

For the most part, the only bad EJ is one you didn't make, unless you were just running a vendetta against the team, which doesn't seem to be the case. I'd have to say after the warnings, hell even before the warning, something like that directed at your partner=. The only thing I could argue is that your partner should have made that one, not you, but if he didn't hear it, then absolutely I'd have done it, but that's just me.

[Astrosdawg07]

They were referring to a pitch in the dirt though, not the fact that my partner was actually rubbing the ball. Every time a ball hit the dirt or a strike was called they didn't agree with they would say rub that dirty ball. :bang:

[Umpire in Chief]

HTBT to get the full picture, but warnings were issued and they continued, no problem from me.

[PeteBooth]

Copied from my report.

A JV vs. B JV 3/29/10 @ B

Over the course of the game the A dugout while at bat had been saying various things from the dugout in reference to not only the ball but as well as Harold ------ (Home Plate Umpire) regarding his strike zone. These things started civil (Where was that pitch, dirty ball, etc.).

First off there are no "FORMULAS" for EJ's.

You said "over the course of the game" which to me means several times. Then you say these things started civil.

When players are saying things about the ball and also saying things about the PU it's NOT civil no matter what the tone. It should have been dealt with the FIRST time the PU heard it.

It's similar to the following:

Me: I call the pitch a ball

Coach: Pete where was that

Me: Ignore

Me: I call the pitch a ball

Coach: Pete where was that

Me: Skip we are not doing this all game long - end of discussion meaning I heard you but I will not take any more comments about my zone.

When the PU heard the comments coming from the bench they should have been addressed "right there and then"

However towards the last half of the game they began saying things such as piss on the ball, at which time Harold called the coach aside and issued a team warning.

See what happens when you "let things go" During the first half of the game the bench was saying things about the ball and the PU's strike zone and NOTHING was said. Now in the later innings it escalated.

In summary: If the PU had taken care of business in the first half of the game for the most part there would not have been any problems during the last half of the game.

That's how many of these "things" get started. What might seem innocent escalates into something ugly.

Pete Booth

[mstaylor]

The only thing wrong that I can see is he issued a warning, then issued it again. That is one warning too many. Pick a little Johnny and send him on his way. Shut chirping down as soon as possible. You have to be there to read the situation but if what thay are doing is wrong, quiet or loud, it needs to be addressed. Once a warning is given lose somebody. We are not like parents I have seen that counts to three, here just count to one.

[BrianC14]

The only thing wrong that I can see is he issued a warning, then issued it again. That is one warning too many. Pick a little Johnny and send him on his way. Shut chirping down as soon as possible. You have to be there to read the situation but if what thay are doing is wrong, quiet or loud, it needs to be addressed. Once a warning is given lose somebody. We are not like parents I have seen that counts to three, here just count to one.

+1.

The OP sounds more like a game management issue to me. The longer you ignore things like this, the tougher it is to deal with them later. Don't kick these problems down the road. Worse yet, don't let them think this is acceptable behavior... your umpire colleagues that have that team for their next game will thank you.