pitcher going to mouth

[Lefty]

I would like a little help on dealing with the pitcher going to his mouth. If a pitcher goes to his mouth while standing on the dirt and he does not wipe off his hand. I believe that the

the batter is given a ball, If the pitcher goes to his mouth while standing on the pitching rubber with no runners on base this is also a ball. If there are runners on base and the pitcher goes

to his mouth while standing on the rubber this is a balk and the batter is given a ball. Also what if he goes to his mouth on the dirt with runners on base and doesn't wipe is it a balk?

Thanks

Lefty

[Guest]

Assuming OBR

This is never a balk. Just a ball.

[UmpTTS43]

Assuming OBR

This is never a balk. Just a ball.

Only if he is on the rubber.

[carolinablue]

If he's in the set position it should be a balk. 8.05 (j)

[UmpTTS43]

If he's in the set position it should be a balk. 8.05 (j)

Yeah, you might want to read that again.

[noumpere]

I would like a little help on dealing with the pitcher going to his mouth. 1.If a pitcher goes to his mouth while standing on the dirt and he does not wipe off his hand. I believe that the

the batter is given a ball, 2.If the pitcher goes to his mouth while standing on the pitching rubber with no runners on base this is also a ball. 3. If there are runners on base and the pitcher goes

to his mouth while standing on the rubber this is a balk and the batter is given a ball. 4.Also what if he goes to his mouth on the dirt with runners on base and doesn't wipe is it a balk?

Thanks

Lefty

I numbered the questions so as to make the answers reference them, and the answers depend on the rules being used.

1. Ball in HS and pro (you are correct) 2. Ball in HS and pro (you are correct) 3. Ball and not a balk in pro, but a balk and not a ball in HS 4. Ball in HS and pro

[sdix00]

If he's in the set position it should be a balk. 8.05 (j)

Yeah, you might want to read that again.

I agree with CarolinaBlue, here. What are we missing?

[Guest]

It would be the act of breaking the set position without delivering the pitch (or stepping off) and not going to his mouth that would be a balk.

[sdix00]

It would be the act of breaking the set position without delivering the pitch (or stepping off) and not going to his mouth that would be a balk.

yes. This is what I meant. I wasn't arguing the reason for the balk. I thought we were arguing for a different penalty.

I think we all agree, from the set, it is impossible to go the mouth because anything that happened after F1 separated, never actually happened.

[UmpTTS43]

Yep. Doh!

[Lefty]

I would like a little help on dealing with the pitcher going to his mouth. 1.If a pitcher goes to his mouth while standing on the dirt and he does not wipe off his hand. I believe that the

the batter is given a ball, 2.If the pitcher goes to his mouth while standing on the pitching rubber with no runners on base this is also a ball. 3. If there are runners on base and the pitcher goes

to his mouth while standing on the rubber this is a balk and the batter is given a ball. 4.Also what if he goes to his mouth on the dirt with runners on base and doesn't wipe is it a balk?

Thanks

Lefty

I numbered the questions so as to make the answers reference them, and the answers depend on the rules being used.

1. Ball in HS and pro (you are correct) 2. Ball in HS and pro (you are correct) 3. Ball and not a balk in pro, but a balk and not a ball in HS 4. Ball in HS and pro

Thanks Noumpere, This was the information I was looking for.

Lefty

[andrew6586]

What is the rule if a pitcher goes to the mouth off of the mound and doesn't wipe it off with 1. Nobody on or 2. Runners on base? Thanks in advance.

[noumpere]

What is the rule if a pitcher goes to the mouth off of the mound and doesn't wipe it off with 1. Nobody on or 2. Runners on base? Thanks in advance.

These situations were covered in the questions and answers above

[andrew6586]

What is the rule if a pitcher goes to the mouth off of the mound and doesn't wipe it off with 1. Nobody on or 2. Runners on base? Thanks in advance.

These situations were covered in the questions and answers above

I meant to ask about the rules when the pitcher is on the grass. I didn't see anything on that in previous posts. Sorry, I should have specified.

[mstaylor]

He still has to wipe but the call is ball still.

[andrew6586]

He still has to wipe but the call is ball still.

Thank you very much.

[Guest]

And how many of you, when the pitcher goes to his mouth (on or off the rubber), doesn't wipe, and then grabs the ball, make him switch baseballs?

[mstaylor]

The first time I am going to talk to him as the BU. After that, he's on his own.

[noumpere]

What is the rule if a pitcher goes to the mouth off of the mound and doesn't wipe it off with 1. Nobody on or 2. Runners on base? Thanks in advance.

These situations were covered in the questions and answers above

I meant to ask about the rules when the pitcher is on the grass. I didn't see anything on that in previous posts. Sorry, I should have specified.

There used to be a difference between on the grass and on the mound but the rule was changed so its all treated the same way now

[jjskitours]

Please comment on the following:

While on the pitcher's plate in the windup position, F-1 has both hands at his side or both hands together in front of his body. He brings his pitching hand to his mouth and then distinctly wipes it off.

This is an illegal pitch by F-1 and a balk will be called if there are runners on base or if the bases are empty, a ball will be awarded to the batter. I know this must be correct for NF and I would also have

it for Pro when both hands are together in front of his body. How about when both hands are at his side (ball in glove) and he goes to his mouth with pitching hand. Pro rule?

While on the pitching plate in the stretch position, F-1 has the ball in his glove hand and his pitching hand is at his side or has hands together in front of his body. He brings his pitching hand to his mouth,

distinctly wipes it off and returns it to his side. This is an illegal pitch by F-1 and a balk will be called if there are runners on base or if the bases are empty, a ball will be awarded to the batter. Again,

I believe this is correct for NF, but how about Pro when he goes to mouth with his pitching hand before coming set - Balk with runners on base?

[mstaylor]

There was no following.....

[jjskitours]

Let me try again.

While on the pitcher's plate in the windup position, F-1 has both hands at his side or both hands together in front of his body. He brings his pitching hand to his mouth and then distinctly wipes it off. This is an illegal pitch by F-1 and a balk will be called if there are runners on base or if the bases are empty, a ball will be awarded to the batter. Correct for NF, but what about Pro?

While on the pitching plate in the stretch position, F-1 has the ball in his glove hand and his pitching hand is at his side or has hands together in front of his body. He brings his pitching hand to his mouth,

distinctly wipes it off and returns it to his side. This is an illegal pitch by F-1 and a balk will be called if there are runners on base or if the bases are empty, a ball will be awarded to the batter. Again, correct for NF, but what about Pro?

I have 8.05(j) once hands have come together, but nothing that would give me a balk until hands have come together. This would then be a difference in application between NF and Pro. Am I off base here.

[noumpere]

From the windup its a ball with or without runners in pro. From the set its a balk with runners in pro.

Moving your hand is a motion to come set but its not a motion associated with a pitch in pro.

[johnnyg08]

From the windup its a ball with or without runners in pro. From the set its a balk with runners in pro.

Moving your hand is a motion to come set but its not a motion associated with a pitch in pro.

But its not a balk for going to the mouth, it is for a lack of a continuous motion. Sorry if that has already been covered.