GiantEngineer

I was pretty sure but wanted to make sure my understanding of the rule was correct. My understanding is that hitting the base doesn't matter.

Saw this play being discussed online and wanted an actual interpretation. I have no additional details, just this general description. Please provide OBR and NFHS Runner on third. Batted ball hits third base, ball bounces off third base and hits the runner in fair territory. The ball somehow hit the corner of the base and bounced back toward home plate. Runner was off of third base in fair territory when they were hit.

Thanks, I was wracking my brain on way home from game and I only came up with same as you.

12 U Travel R1 only Kid crosses plate on strike 3 swing. Catcher has to hesitate/throw over/around to 2nd. So I get R1 out too. I was wondering if there is ever a situation where you wouldn't get the 2nd out on interference on 3rd strike with another runner stealing?

12 U Travel R1 only Kid crosses plate on strike 3 swing. Catcher has to hesitate/throw over/around to 2nd. So I get R1 out too. I was wondering if there is ever a situation where you wouldn't get the 2nd out on interference on 3rd strike with another runner stealing?

I don't know the NCAA book but based on the rule above I agree with safe.

I saw this interesting play on Facebook. What do you have on this play? I'm leaning towards out on the force at 2nd. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19DuGr3pPa/

I saw this interesting play on Facebook. What do you have on this play? I'm leaning towards out on the force at 2nd. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19DuGr3pPa/

If you ruled it not a swing, then assuming the ball is not in the strike zone it is a HBP (in the strike zone is a dead ball strike). If ruled a swing, it is a dead ball strike regardless of location. So trying to avoid is not applicable, you have to rule swing or not.

I thought we had discussed this before and most were of the opinion that you give the option to the manager, at least below the HS level.

Assuming the obstruction is before touching 1st, unless this was a clear double, why would they get second? You only award the base they would make it to without the obstruction (minimum of one base, which is 1st in this situation).

That is sadly just part of the game. Unless it is against a rule, there is not much you can do without directly addressing the coach (which often is not the best way to go)

As long as F3 has control of the ball in his hand or glove when tagging the base, the runner is out. If he is bobbling or drops the ball before the tag, then the runner is not out, assuming they beat F3 recovering the ball.

Rule 3-3-1-m "If the defense commits the malicious contact, the player is ejected; the umpire shall rule either safe or out on the play and award the runner(s) the appropriate base(s) the umpire felt the runner(s) would have obtained if the malicious contact had not occurred." If the malicious contact is what caused them to be out, you can award bases, so I agree with @maven. If there was a clear distinction in time between the tag and being run over, the out would stand but the fielder is ejected.

What about on a wild pitch where the batter doesn't move or steps right into the path between the catcher and the pitcher covering the plate? Either getting hit by the ball or in the way of the pitcher.

ESPN shows the 3rd pitch of the at-bat to Polanco was foul. So I interpret what the ump did was to check if it was a clean catch (foul tip) vs caught on the bounce (foul ball). If there was dirt on the ball, he would conclude it hit the ground. The final call was foul ball. With 2 strikes this is the difference between a 3rd strike and the at-bat continuing.

That's possibly where I was getting confused. Hopefully someone can find a case play.

You have to determine where the ball was when it hit the runner. If it is foul, it's just a foul ball. It it's fair, then it is an out (with exception for both). Same thing applies if the runner is straddling the line.

Did you mean to reply in the other thread about the top of the strike zone?

I have seen leagues use a modified version with younger kids but not in that situation.

There was a local field that for years the fence was about 10 ft into foul territory in LF but stopped 10 ft short of the RF line just leaving a gap down the line.

I was asking about the foot position but you answered the question. NFHS removes the foot requirement and allows both feet to be in the air before any body part hits the ground for a valid catch. Also, you can straddle the out-of-play line.

Thank you. I guess I never noticed that requirement is different between MLB and NFHS.

It's not a catch if a ball is touched by a fielder and then hits a member of the offensive team or an umpire before being finally secured by any fielder.