Only one I've ever seen

[mjr_2013]

About 5 - 7 years ago in my brothers varsity game (I was a spectator), R1 took off to 2nd on a steal... BU (who was actually a friend of my mom's) went to the working zone for the call. He kept his eye on the plate for the pitch... B1 absoulutely screamed a line drive that hit him right beneath his left eye and he went down. Zero time to react... After the play finished, the athletic trainer ran on the field and was able to somehow help the guy (who was actually up there in age, 50 - 60 years old) to his feet and off the field.

My mom (a nurse) took him to the hospital, and he had broken his zygomatic bone (the tough hard one you can feel right beneath your eye).

Though his sight was not altered, it required a surgery, and after it he returned to the field for a time, before some pain returned..... He had another surgery done, and as far as I know, he hasn't returned (though we have lost touch over the years).

When my mom had taken him to the hospital, he didn't want the ball so he gave it to my mom to give to me... I still have it somewhere in the house... Big black mark where it hit him.

The whole thing was pretty scary, especially for a 9 or 10 year old.

[semper_fi_72]

After the play finished, the athletic trainer ran on the field and was able to somehow help the guy (who was actually up there in age, 50 - 60 years old) to his feet and off the field.

Hey watch the Senior Citizen remarks

Some of us are Actually up there in our life experience and can still run circles around those who are half that age working games.

[yawetag]

About 5 - 7 years ago in my brothers varsity game (I was a spectator), R1 took off to 2nd on a steal... BU (who was actually a friend of my mom's) went to the working zone for the call. He kept his eye on the plate for the pitch... B1 absoulutely screamed a line drive that hit him right beneath his left eye and he went down. Zero time to react... After the play finished, the athletic trainer ran on the field and was able to somehow help the guy (who was actually up there in age, 50 - 60 years old) to his feet and off the field.

I'm interested, and this is a learning experience (that means let YOH answer it, you old-timers!):

1) How did the "play finish"?

2) How would you, as the PU, let the play finish?

[mjr_2013]

After the play finished, the athletic trainer ran on the field and was able to somehow help the guy (who was actually up there in age, 50 - 60 years old) to his feet and off the field.

Hey watch the Senior Citizen remarks

Some of us are Actually up there in our life experience and can still run circles around those who are half that age working games.

haha, I was saying for the league... Most umps in the league were 20s - 30s... Nothing agains the older generation!!! The more expirience, the better! :notworthy:

[mjr_2013]

About 5 - 7 years ago in my brothers varsity game (I was a spectator), R1 took off to 2nd on a steal... BU (who was actually a friend of my mom's) went to the working zone for the call. He kept his eye on the plate for the pitch... B1 absoulutely screamed a line drive that hit him right beneath his left eye and he went down. Zero time to react... After the play finished, the athletic trainer ran on the field and was able to somehow help the guy (who was actually up there in age, 50 - 60 years old) to his feet and off the field.

I'm interested, and this is a learning experience (that means let YOH answer it, you old-timers!):

1) How did the "play finish"?

2) How would you, as the PU, let the play finish?

1) The ball bounced towards F4, who was forced to change directions (from going up the middle to in and towards the pitcher).... Batter-Runner had been hustling all the way and made it safe, which was called by the PU.

2) The same way... As far as I have been taught (in the limited teaching I've had), the BU in infield fair territory acts the same as a wall... If the ball hits him/her and is caught, it is still a live ball and the Batter-Runner needs to be thrown out.... The PU instantly acts as a one man system, gets the best angle possible, and makes the call.

[Rich Ives]

About 5 - 7 years ago in my brothers varsity game (I was a spectator), R1 took off to 2nd on a steal... BU (who was actually a friend of my mom's) went to the working zone for the call. He kept his eye on the plate for the pitch... B1 absoulutely screamed a line drive that hit him right beneath his left eye and he went down. Zero time to react... After the play finished, the athletic trainer ran on the field and was able to somehow help the guy (who was actually up there in age, 50 - 60 years old) to his feet and off the field.

I'm interested, and this is a learning experience (that means let YOH answer it, you old-timers!):

1) How did the "play finish"?

2) How would you, as the PU, let the play finish?

1) The ball bounced towards F4, who was forced to change directions (from going up the middle to in and towards the pitcher).... Batter-Runner had been hustling all the way and made it safe, which was called by the PU.

2) The same way... As far as I have been taught (in the limited teaching I've had), the BU in infield fair territory acts the same as a wall... If the ball hits him/her and is caught, it is still a live ball and the Batter-Runner needs to be thrown out.... The PU instantly acts as a one man system, gets the best angle possible, and makes the call.

In OBR if it hasn't passed a fielder it's umpire interference and a dead ball.

[yawetag]

2) The same way... As far as I have been taught (in the limited teaching I've had), the BU in infield fair territory acts the same as a wall... If the ball hits him/her and is caught, it is still a live ball and the Batter-Runner needs to be thrown out.... The PU instantly acts as a one man system, gets the best angle possible, and makes the call.

If the ball had not passed an infielder (which is not very likely, unless they were playing shallow for a bunt), the ball is immediately dead. BR is awarded first, and only runners forced by his award advance; all others go to TOP base.

If it had passed an infielder (or been deflected by one), the ball is live.

[gdpmumin]

In OBR if it hasn't passed a fielder it's umpire interference and a dead ball.

This is where my inexperience comes in. Does that include F3? I've read that rule many times and thought of game situations where it might happen that the ball had no chance to pass a fielder before hitting an umpire and haven't been able to come up with any. I mean, it seems that it will almost always pass at least F3 before it gets to the umpire, even umpires who set up inside.

For my purposes, because I set up outside when I'm BU, there really is no chance that it won't pass a fielder before getting to me, even if I bust in on a play. So this is an academic exercise for me. But I would at least like to know how to handle it.

[semper_fi_72]

In OBR if it hasn't passed a fielder it's umpire interference and a dead ball.

This is where my inexperience comes in. Does that include F3? I've read that rule many times and thought of game situations where it might happen that the ball had no chance to pass a fielder before hitting an umpire and haven't been able to come up with any. I mean, it seems that it will almost always pass at least F3 before it gets to the umpire, even umpires who set up inside.

For my purposes, because I set up outside when I'm BU, there really is no chance that it won't pass a fielder before getting to me, even if I bust in on a play. So this is an academic exercise for me. But I would at least like to know how to handle it.

How could it pass F3 (1st Baseman) if your in B or C with runners on and the ball is hit at you?

F3 is no where near the play.

Also if your in "A" you better be set up behind F3 and in Foul Territory.

Then if the ball hits you after it passes F3 you either have a Live Ball or a Foul.

If you are always setting up outside as BU you must be working 60' Little League games only.

My BU partner was drilled in the stomach by a line drive last Sunday while in the B position with R1.

Adult AAA Ball.

He was lucky that he got some of his body turned so it was not a direct shot.

My first reaction was yelling Time and checking on my partner.

Then we placed R1 on 2nd and BR on 1st.

Play

[gdpmumin]

In OBR if it hasn't passed a fielder it's umpire interference and a dead ball.

This is where my inexperience comes in. Does that include F3? I've read that rule many times and thought of game situations where it might happen that the ball had no chance to pass a fielder before hitting an umpire and haven't been able to come up with any. I mean, it seems that it will almost always pass at least F3 before it gets to the umpire, even umpires who set up inside.

For my purposes, because I set up outside when I'm BU, there really is no chance that it won't pass a fielder before getting to me, even if I bust in on a play. So this is an academic exercise for me. But I would at least like to know how to handle it.

How could it pass F3 (1st Baseman) if your in B or C with runners on and the ball is hit at you?

F3 is no where near the play.

Also if your in "A" you better be set up behind F3 and in Foul Territory.

Then if the ball hits you after it passes F3 you either have a Live Ball or a Foul.

If you are always setting up outside as BU you must be working 60' Little League games only.

My BU partner was drilled in the stomach by a line drive last Sunday while in the B position with R1.

Adult AAA Ball.

He was lucky that he got some of his body turned so it was not a direct shot.

My first reaction was yelling Time and checking on my partner.

Then we placed R1 on 2nd and BR on 1st.

Play

Bah! Sorry. Meant F1, dangit! F1, not F3. Brain went to sleep as I typed that response. So, the question should be, does F1 count as a fielder when calculating whether the ball has passed a fielder prior to hitting an umpire?

[mstaylor]

Only if he touches it.

[mtnump]

NO!!! It is stated as if it strikes a runner or umpire before it goes past a fielder other than the pitcher then INT.

If it strikes the umpire after going past an infielder other than the pitcher or touches an infielder including the pitcher then the ball is live.

[wek29]

So I had a similar situation...only almost caught in the face but turned enough to take it in the shoulder. The plate ump ruled it not interference because the pitcher made a play on the ball and in his opinion had become a fielder. Was this wrong? I was actually up and getting back into position for the play and going to call it but he was already yelling that it wasn't.

[mtnump]

So I had a similar situation...only almost caught in the face but turned enough to take it in the shoulder. The plate ump ruled it not interference because the pitcher made a play on the ball and in his opinion had become a fielder. Was this wrong? I was actually up and getting back into position for the play and going to call it but he was already yelling that it wasn't.

Only if he touches it.

[gdpmumin]

If you are always setting up outside as BU you must be working 60' Little League games only.

Dixie Youth Baseball, actually. There have been many times, however, that I would have preferred to be setup inside. But given the shortness of the field, I'm sure that would be a rather dangerous prospect.

[mjr_2013]

Sorry I can't help with the Umpire Interference rules.... I am reallllllllllllllly drawing from memory, as I was only 8 or 9 at the time... It is possible that umpire's interference was called, as I am only positive thet the batter runner ended up on 1st and a fielder making a throw... If the PU had called Ump's Interference, I hadn't heard, as I was paying full attention to the umpire who had been hurt... I know that the ball had not passed a fielder though.

Thanks to this though, I now know what to do in case I or my partner is hit, which I didn't know before... Chalk that up to the "learned" column.

[yawetag]

Thanks to this though, I now know what to do in case I or my partner is hit, which I didn't know before... Chalk that up to the "learned" column.

There are those that can quote it verbatim from the rule book. They're the ones that have been hit.

[okump96]

Thanks to this though, I now know what to do in case I or my partner is hit, which I didn't know before... Chalk that up to the "learned" column.

There are those that can quote it verbatim from the rule book. They're the ones that have been hit.

i'm one of the ones that can quote it, fortunately i haven't been hit(yet), but i've had 2 partners get drilled while in 'c".