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[Jimurray]

Interesting take on UmpSmart Facebook sit that I disagree with but Facebook is not a place to argue rules.

But it does engender some sits that we might wonder what to do. OBR

1. Bases loaded, 2 out, tie game, ball 4. Batter goes to 1B and R3 proceeds to HP and misses it in his jumping celebration.

2. Same sit. R3 touches HP and batter runs wildly down the line to touch 1B and just misses it as he continues to the dogpile in the infield dirt.

5.09(b) Requires us to have a touch of both bases to declare the game over and requires either runner to "refuse" before we call them out.

Or do we consider the base touched and then require an appeal of a "missed" base.

[JSam21]

Bases that are passed are considered to be touched until properly appealed by the defense. Missed bases must be appealed. They must be appealed before the umpires leave the field or the infielders cross the foul lines.

[noumpere]

2 hours ago, Jimurray said:

Or do we consider the base touched and then require an appeal of a "missed" base.

That.

[Jimurray]

9 minutes ago, JSam21 said:

Bases that are passed are considered to be touched until properly appealed by the defense. Missed bases must be appealed. They must be appealed before the umpires leave the field or the infielders cross the foul lines.

So if the batter starts celebrating before 1B, peeling off before we can consider 1B "passed", we wait a reasonable amount of time, some of us possibly telling him to go to 1B, as the rule requires a "refusal", and we call him out if he doesn't comply?

Does it matter where the "dogpile' ends up?

[JSam21]

13 minutes ago, Jimurray said:

So if the batter starts celebrating before 1B, peeling off before we can consider 1B "passed", we wait a reasonable amount of time, some of us possibly telling him to go to 1B, as the rule requires a "refusal", and we call him out if he doesn't comply?

Does it matter where the "dogpile' ends up?

Yep. We go back to that diagram of what constitutes a runner passing a base. If both feet are beyond the back edge of the base, they've passed it. If it is a gross miss, they can still be put out on appeal, even if they return to the base, as last time by no longer applies.

 

[Jimurray]

55 minutes ago, JSam21 said:

Yep. We go back to that diagram of what constitutes a runner passing a base. If both feet are beyond the back edge of the base, they've passed it. If it is a gross miss, they can still be put out on appeal, even if they return to the base, as last time by no longer applies.

 

Last I remember, Wendelstedt allows gross misses to be corrected in OBR.