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And there is no way that """"only""" Mike Morris out of 16 selections including alternates is the only NCAA D1 qualified umpire with no pro experience, and not even a pro umpire school, that can handle a CWS as a pure amateur player calling umpire. That is just pitiful and that gives no inspiration to the guys who are working their tails of year after year to even hope to have a chance at working a CWS as a non former professional umpire working amateur players. They are not being trained correctly or mentored to perform as the other umpires or like Mike Morris to enter into the CWS ranks, yet they sure can fill out that weekend roster time after time, week after week, and work those middle of the week plate games all to no avail at the end, and there must not be 450+ and probably closer to 550 former professional umpires available. 300 teams equals 150 games a weekend and at least 450 umpires if all Conferences worked 3 man. But most work 4 man, so that's probably 550 umpires every weekend and they are not all former MiLB.

Dang, every Conference in D1 gets a team into the NCAA. Not every Conference had an umpire that worked the Conference Tournament get into the NCAA Regionals. Pitiful. The teams get the winner of the Conference but not even one umpire working the finals or the Conference tournament anywhere does not get in. Just not a good look.

How about all the umpires just working amateur players all their lives, just quit and lets see all those former pros working 2 man crews all around the country and then 1 man when you get a head shot or do you just stay with a concussion rather than let your partner work a one person by themselves. Also, to their credit the Super Regionals and CWS took 25% new guys or alternates for the first time. How many did the Regionals take where you get that start. Only 9 or 10 out of 96. That should have been 24 new guys working at the Regionals if you follow the pattern of the other 2 events. Big deal somebody only gets 20 Regionals in their career rather than 24. Let some other people get that Regional Experience. Heck, in the Supers, there is one umpire that is only going to see the bases anyway in a 3 game playoff with a 4 man crew, so no wonder they can send 8 new guys a year, but they have to come from that Regional first.

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41 minutes ago, dumbdumb said:

And there is no way that """"only""" Mike Morris out of 16 selections including alternates is the only NCAA D1 qualified umpire with no pro experience, and not even a pro umpire school, that can handle a CWS as a pure amateur player calling umpire. That is just pitiful and that gives no inspiration to the guys who are working their tails of year after year to even hope to have a chance at working a CWS as a non former professional umpire working amateur players. They are not being trained correctly or mentored to perform as the other umpires or like Mike Morris to enter into the CWS ranks, yet they sure can fill out that weekend roster time after time, week after week, and work those middle of the week plate games all to no avail at the end, and there must not be 450+ and probably closer to 550 former professional umpires available. 300 teams equals 150 games a weekend and at least 450 umpires if all Conferences worked 3 man. But most work 4 man, so that's probably 550 umpires every weekend and they are not all former MiLB.

Dang, every Conference in D1 gets a team into the NCAA. Not every Conference had an umpire that worked the Conference Tournament get into the NCAA Regionals. Pitiful. The teams get the winner of the Conference but not even one umpire working the finals or the Conference tournament anywhere does not get in. Just not a good look.

How about all the umpires just working amateur players all their lives, just quit and lets see all those former pros working 2 man crews all around the country and then 1 man when you get a head shot or do you just stay with a concussion rather than let your partner work a one person by themselves. Also, to their credit the Super Regionals and CWS took 25% new guys or alternates for the first time. How many did the Regionals take where you get that start. Only 9 or 10 out of 96. That should have been 24 new guys working at the Regionals if you follow the pattern of the other 2 events. Big deal somebody only gets 20 Regionals in their career rather than 24. Let some other people get that Regional Experience. Heck, in the Supers, there is one umpire that is only going to see the bases anyway in a 3 game playoff with a 4 man crew, so no wonder they can send 8 new guys a year, but they have to come from that Regional first.

As someone who is one of those guys trying to work my tail off to get better and move up, I have to politely disagree with you.

Television, money, replay, and coaches, have forced the best of the best being placed.  I mean, if an umpire calls a pitch 1.5” off the plate, it’s on umpireauditor, the announcers have a heyday with it, teams in dugouts see it and gripe.

An assignor just can’t put a bunch of new guys out there just because it’s their turn in the rotation.

I’d like to believe that talent matters…I’d like to believe if I do a good job, I’ll get a conference tournament soon (I’m newer), or a D3 or JUCO postseason (beyond conference).  I’d like to believe that if I do a good job, and someone else doesn’t, I’ll get that spot over that person.

But I can’t hope for that and then say, “well I should get a CWS over someone better than me bc it’s only fair”

Its hard to compete with those guys bc they are really good.  I went to a AA game a week ago and only watched the umpires…they were really good, and prob have near zero chance of making pros.

If they join the college ranks in a year or two, it’s only fair I get a better assignment than them?  No…

All that matters is, if you’re truly good enough, truly as good or better than someone out of the minor leagues, will they give you a shot?  If the answer is yes, then I’m okay with that.  Very few of us can be as good as them bc we didn’t work the highest level of players, highest level of training, and maybe more Important, the pressure of knowing every play/call matters , like really matters, bc their chance at moving up and pros depends on it, and the players career chances of pro depend on their stats, so hosing calls and rule applications has far reaching implications beyond what we experience in most college games.

If I ever get as good as them, I hope they give me a fair shake.  If I don’t (prob won’t), then I’d be happy with some lower level postseason and occasional D1 assignments as my “ceiling”

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