Home plate collision Q

[timelydew]

If the catcher is deemed in violation of blocking the plate, and the runner who's coming home is called safe, what happens to the other runner(s) if this happens? In the first part of the rule, where the runner is guilty of initiating illegal contact, it says that the runners must return to the base last touched at the time of the collision. What about if the catcher's guilty and a runner is advancing to second on the throw home? I assume that, since it's an act of obstruction, the runner would be allowed to advance to second if the catcher is the guilty party? 

[Richvee]

Assuming there's a play being made on the runner trying to score, It's type one Obstruction. Ball is dead and umpire judgement as to other runners. If the play at the plate happens on a infield ground ball with R3 advancing,  and the BR runs through the bag,  he may not be awarded 2B. 

(1) If a play is being made on the obstructed runner, or if the
batter-runner is obstructed before he touches first base,
the ball is dead and all runners shall advance, without liability
to be put out, to the bases they would have reached,
in the umpire’s judgment, if there had been no obstruction.

[Replacematt]

6 minutes ago, Richvee said:

Assuming there's a play being made on the runner trying to score, It's type one Obstruction. Ball is dead and umpire judgement as to other runners. If the play at the plate happens on a infield ground ball with R3 advancing,  and the BR runs through the bag,  he may not be awarded 2B. 

(1) If a play is being made on the obstructed runner, or if the
batter-runner is obstructed before he touches first base,
the ball is dead and all runners shall advance, without liability
to be put out, to the bases they would have reached,
in the umpire’s judgment, if there had been no obstruction.

Do you mean "might not" instead of "may not?"

[Gfoley4]

55 minutes ago, Richvee said:

Assuming there's a play being made on the runner trying to score, It's type one Obstruction. Ball is dead and umpire judgement as to other runners. If the play at the plate happens on a infield ground ball with R3 advancing,  and the BR runs through the bag,  he may not be awarded 2B. 

(1) If a play is being made on the obstructed runner, or if the
batter-runner is obstructed before he touches first base,
the ball is dead and all runners shall advance, without liability
to be put out, to the bases they would have reached,
in the umpire’s judgment, if there had been no obstruction.

OBR has the catcher's collision rules in a different section than obstruction. 

 

Quote

6.01(i)(1) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (regardless of whether the player covering home plate maintains possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the collision.

 

[Richvee]

36 minutes ago, Gfoley4 said:

OBR has the catcher's collision rules in a different section than obstruction. 

 

 

That's for runner infractions.

[Richvee]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Do you mean "might not" instead of "may not?"

correct

[timelydew]

19 hours ago, Richvee said:

That's for runner infractions.

Good eye. As for your first response, I was picturing a conventional single to the outfield, but thanks for the other example. So I guess I was right then. Thanks