OBR 7.07

[JaxRolo]

Does his apply with only runner in 3rd?<br /><br />7.07 If, with a runner on third base and trying to score by means of a squeeze play or a steal, the catcher or any other fielder steps on, or in front of home base without possession of the ball, or touches the batter or his bat, the pitcher shall be charged with a balk, the bat- ter shall be awarded first base on the interference and the ball is dead.

[Replacematt]

Does his apply with only runner in 3rd?<br /><br />7.07 If, with a runner on third base and trying to score by means of a squeeze play or a steal, the catcher or any other fielder steps on, or in front of home base without possession of the ball, or touches the batter or his bat, the pitcher shall be charged with a balk, the bat- ter shall be awarded first base on the interference and the ball is dead.

Yes, because the relevant factor here is the attempted steal of home. So, there has to be a runner on third, but a runner on third does not automatically make this a balk.

[bam]

Gee, I dunno - let me read the rule again.... 

 

Yip - there it is - if, with a runner on third base....

 

Glad I could clear that one up for you. 

[Mad Mike]

Geez, a little harsh Bam, even for Jax......need coffee or something a little stronger?

[JaxRolo]

Gee, I dunno - let me read the rule again.... <br /><br />Yip - there it is - if, with a runner on third base....<br /><br />Glad I could clear that one up for you.

<br />What if the runner is on 2nd?

[Rich Ives]

Are you asking what if there is ALSO a runner elsewhere - "only if there is a runner on third" meaning that it would then not apply?

[noumpere]

If the runner on third is actually on second, then he's out.  Otherwise, I don't understand your question.

[bam]

 

Gee, I dunno - let me read the rule again.... <br /><br />Yip - there it is - if, with a runner on third base....<br /><br />Glad I could clear that one up for you.

<br />What if the runner is on 2nd?

 

No balk.  CI and runners return if not forced. 

 

[JaxRolo]

 

 

Gee, I dunno - let me read the rule again.... <br /><br />Yip - there it is - if, with a runner on third base....<br /><br />Glad I could clear that one up for you.

<br />What if the runner is on 2nd?

 

No balk.  CI and runners return if not forced. 

 

 

Exactly

[noumpere]

 

 

 

Gee, I dunno - let me read the rule again.... <br /><br />Yip - there it is - if, with a runner on third base....<br /><br />Glad I could clear that one up for you.

<br />What if the runner is on 2nd?

 

No balk.  CI and runners return if not forced. 

 

 

Exactly

 

Runners also advance if stealing.

 

If it's R3 stealing, then other runners advance on the balk even if they weren't stealing.

 

With R2 advancing, the effect is going to be the same (R2 will advance because he was stealing; that means any R3 will also advance; R1 will advance because he's forced) even if a balk isn't called.