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OBR... no outs, R1 and R2. Batter swings at pitch in the dirt for strike 3. Pitch bounces up into F2's CP and deflects towards hitter in RH box. Hitter makes contact with the pitched ball on his backswing, but baseball ends up going straight back down into dirt and sits within F2's reach. Meanwhile, R2 second guesses his dirt ball read and gets hung up between 2B and 3B. F2 is able to retrieve ball and make the throw to the baseline where R2 is out after a 3 throw rundown. Would this have been backswing INT had R2 made it safely to 3B and, by rule, required to go back? Since F2 was able to reach and grab the ball from his block position, I froze up and let the play happen. My thought was that since an out was made on the runner, the backswing INT is ignored. Sidenote: I know in FED, the out has to be made at the end of F2's throw. For FED, would you kill the play on BI and not give the defense a chance to get the R out in rundown? Meant to make subject "Backswing INT" since OBR has that separate from BI

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No hindrance = no INT.

I like a no call if the contact in fact helped F2.

Backswing INT generally prevents a throw. For FED or for BI, we don't let a rundown develop. If the first throw by F2 does not retire a runner, kill it and call the batter out.

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No hindrance = no INT.

I like a no call if the contact in fact helped F2.

Backswing INT generally prevents a throw. For FED or for BI, we don't let a rundown develop. If the first throw by F2 does not retire a runner, kill it and call the batter out.

So if the backswing on the strikeout actually hit the ball to the backstop (rather than help F2), would that be an instance where you kill it to keep runners from advancing?

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No hindrance = no INT.

I like a no call if the contact in fact helped F2.

Backswing INT generally prevents a throw. For FED or for BI, we don't let a rundown develop. If the first throw by F2 does not retire a runner, kill it and call the batter out.

So if the backswing on the strikeout actually hit the ball to the backstop (rather than help F2), would that be an instance where you kill it to keep runners from advancing?

 

 

Yes, kill it. The runners might try to advance, but you'll be there to send them back. :)

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since it was strike three, aren't we getting the lead runner out as well?

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since it was strike three, aren't we getting the lead runner out as well?

In FED, if the contact with the ball made the ball go back to the screen, yes, I think we kill it for BI and lead runner out if you think F2 would have had a chance to throw out R2 without the BI. In OBR, send the runners back on backswing INT. 

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since it was strike three, aren't we getting the lead runner out as well?

In FED, if the contact with the ball made the ball go back to the screen, yes, I think we kill it for BI and lead runner out if you think F2 would have had a chance to throw out R2 without the BI. In OBR, send the runners back on backswing INT.

For FED, this may be a scenario where its killed and you send the runners back-based on a case play

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since it was strike three, aren't we getting the lead runner out as well?

In FED, if the contact with the ball made the ball go back to the screen, yes, I think we kill it for BI and lead runner out if you think F2 would have had a chance to throw out R2 without the BI. In OBR, send the runners back on backswing INT.

 

For FED, this may be a scenario where its killed and you send the runners back-based on a case play

 

I believe that case play has the runner almost advanced to the next base TOP. I don't remember the exact wording. Bottom line is, in FED if you think there's ANY chance F2 could have thrown out the runner sans BI, get the out on the runner. 

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7.3.5 SITUATION D:

With R2 on first base and R1 on second base, one out and two strikes on B4, R1 and R2 attempt a double steal. B4 swings and misses the pitch and interferes with F2's attempt to throw out either R1 or R2.

RULING: If in the umpire's judgment F2 could have made a putout on the runner(s) but cannot determine where the play was going to be made because of the nature of the interference, the umpire will then call out the runner nearest home plate, which is R1.

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