Transfer again yesterday

[OHUMP]

Looks like Davidson is explaining the new interpretation to Francona in the Cleveland San Diego game yesterday. 

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/?content_id=31940799&topic_id=vtp_review&query=indians challenge

[BigUmpire]

Was this NOT explained to all pro teams BEFORE the season?

 

 

 

" What we have here is a failure to communicate"- Strother Martin in Cool Hand Luke.

[Thunderheads]

Even with what we learned yesterday ...........  is MLB saying this F9 didn't have control?

 

I think this type of play maybe found a loophole in the "newer/better 2.00 Catch definition?"

[JaxRolo]

Why are coaches even challenging this anymore?

[Thunderheads]

Why are coaches even challenging this anymore?

you must admit this is different than what's been seen before

[JaxRolo]

 

Why are coaches even challenging this anymore?

you must admit this is different than what's been seen before

 

It is but I think it has been made more than clear they need to have secure possession in the throwing hand for it to be an out.

[Thunderheads]

 

 

Why are coaches even challenging this anymore?

you must admit this is different than what's been seen before

 

It is but I think it has been made more than clear they need to have secure possession in the throwing hand for it to be an out.

 

totally agree!

 

that being said though ..... THIS SCENARIO could cause issues w/ the new interpretation because it doesn't take into account what happened in this play.  F9 had this for 5 or 6 steps, clearly AND securely

[BillKen]

This stinks!  That is a catch.  What if a OF makes a 3rd out catch like this, runs halfway to the dugout and drops it on the transfer to throw it to the umpire after the inning has technically ended?  There has to be a time frame in this definition.  

[Thunderheads]

This stinks!  That is a catch.  What if a OF makes a 3rd out catch like this, runs halfway to the dugout and drops it on the transfer to throw it to the umpire after the inning has technically ended?  There has to be a time frame in this definition.  

They talked about this EXACT thing on this play on MLBTonight last night (MLB Network)

[BigUmpire]

When, not if, will this revert?

[Mike Prince]

I don't think this is like New Coca-Cola.  They will surely refine how certain situations are handled and learn as they go, but this isn't going away.

 

At least in pro ball, you want the out, hold onto the damn ball.

[JaxRolo]

 

This stinks!  That is a catch.  What if a OF makes a 3rd out catch like this, runs halfway to the dugout and drops it on the transfer to throw it to the umpire after the inning has technically ended?  There has to be a time frame in this definition.  

They talked about this EXACT thing on this play on MLBTonight last night (MLB Network)

 

Since when do we listen to announcers/sportscasters?

[Thunderheads]

 

 

This stinks!  That is a catch.  What if a OF makes a 3rd out catch like this, runs halfway to the dugout and drops it on the transfer to throw it to the umpire after the inning has technically ended?  There has to be a time frame in this definition.  

They talked about this EXACT thing on this play on MLBTonight last night (MLB Network)

 

Since when do we listen to announcers/sportscasters?

 

LOL ...no, ...no ....  I'm just saying they were DISCUSSING the drops and transfer plays lately because of this play (obviously they hadn't received the 'memo' we have! ) ....

[tldavis19]

 

 

 

Why are coaches even challenging this anymore?

you must admit this is different than what's been seen before

 

It is but I think it has been made more than clear they need to have secure possession in the throwing hand for it to be an out.

 

totally agree!

 

that being said though ..... THIS SCENARIO could cause issues w/ the new interpretation because it doesn't take into account what happened in this play.  F9 had this for 5 or 6 steps, clearly AND securely

 

Yes for a few steps then ran into the wall, therefore making his interaction with the wall part of the catch process then dropped it on the transfer. He ran for a few steps, but never completed the process of the catch. If he ran for a few steps and just dropped it, it still would be not a catch. The steps don't matter, it's the act of getting the ball to the throwing hand and making a clean exchange.

[tldavis19]

Is it just me or does it seem that these plays are far more numerous so far this year than normal? or are we hearing about them because of replay?

[johnnyg08]

I think we're hearing about this b/c of replay.  

 

The momentum of the catch is not different in this year's rule.

 

Now, in the post above talking about an outfielder after catching the third out of the 1/2 inning and running into the infield and the ball comes out.

 

That is still going to be a catch.  The momentum of the catch has been completed.