MLB Instant Replay Review 050: Phil Cuzzi (01)

Lindsay · April 9, 2014

Instant Replay Review confirmed 2B Umpire Phil Cuzzi's safe call in the bottom of the 3rd inning of the Rays-Royals game. With one out and one on, Royals batter Jarrod Dyson hit a 2-2 slider from...

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Thunderheads · April 9, 2014

Gil ....

any luck on interpretation of a 'catch' ... and/or, ....'transfer' issues? This play just nails the last nail in the coffin that MLB has changed something ...

Thanks!

bam · April 9, 2014

Gil ....

any luck on interpretation of a 'catch' ... and/or, ....'transfer' issues? This play just nails the last nail in the coffin that MLB has changed something ...

Thanks!

Apparently, whatever way you've been calling it, rule the opposite. :smachhead:

Thunderheads · April 9, 2014

Gil ....

any luck on interpretation of a 'catch' ... and/or, ....'transfer' issues? This play just nails the last nail in the coffin that MLB has changed something ...

Thanks!

Apparently, whatever way you've been calling it, rule the opposite.

I know you're messing, but honestly .... I've very rarely seen this call for myself on the field ....... but as we've seen in the past, we must admit that 99.000% of the transfer / no control calls we've seen this year called, and either confirmed or overturned have been ruled catches in the past (especially on the double play balls)

BUT ...you are right, ...I probably have been or would have called it wrong .... I suck!

bam · April 9, 2014

Gil ....

any luck on interpretation of a 'catch' ... and/or, ....'transfer' issues? This play just nails the last nail in the coffin that MLB has changed something ...

Thanks!

Apparently, whatever way you've been calling it, rule the opposite.

I know you're messing, but honestly .... I've very rarely seen this call for myself on the field ....... but as we've seen in the past, we must admit that 99.000% of the transfer / no control calls we've seen this year called, and either confirmed or overturned have been ruled catches in the past (especially on the double play balls)

I categorically agree with this statement.

I looks like to me that, going forward, in order for a "on the transfer" ruling to be made, the ball will have to pop out of the hand instead of out of the glove.

Thunderheads · April 9, 2014

Gil ....

any luck on interpretation of a 'catch' ... and/or, ....'transfer' issues? This play just nails the last nail in the coffin that MLB has changed something ...

Thanks!

Apparently, whatever way you've been calling it, rule the opposite.

I know you're messing, but honestly .... I've very rarely seen this call for myself on the field ....... but as we've seen in the past, we must admit that 99.000% of the transfer / no control calls we've seen this year called, and either confirmed or overturned have been ruled catches in the past (especially on the double play balls)

I categorically agree with this statement.

I looks like to me that, going forward, in order for a "on the transfer" ruling to be made, the ball will have to pop out of the hand instead of out of the glove.

I whole-heartedly agree with you sir! That's what it looks like, doesn't it?

Thunderheads · April 9, 2014

From Hunter on another thread: http://umpire-empire.com/index.php/topic/56705-and-another-transfer-they-say-wasnt-controlled/

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Here is the added portion for this year:

In determining whether a fielder drops the ball â€œwhile in the act of making a throw following the catchâ€ in accordance with Rule 2.00, the umpires will determine whether the fielder obtained possession of a ball in flight but dropped the ball while in the act of making a throw during the momentum of the catch. For example, if the shortstop, in an effort to turn a double play, throws to the second baseman, who drops the ball while in the act of drawing back his arm to make a throw to first base, the second baseman shall be adjudged to have had secure control of the ball and thus the ball shall be adjudged to have been caught by the second baseman. However, it shall not be adjudged to be a catch if, while in the act of making a throw during the momentum of the catch, the fielder loses possession of the ball in the transfer (e.g., flip from the glove) before he secures the ball with his throwing hand.

Our emphasis:

The "flip" itself is not deemed a voluntary release, even though it may be a voluntary action. This is an update you will find in the 2014 Rules and Interpretations Manual. We have removed the exclusive interpretation offered for a number of year providing that it only be an attempted voluntary release. This is no longer the case. The release must be voluntary. Additionally, this interpretation has been merged with a tag of a base as well on the front end of a double play attempt. He must secure the ball in his throwing hand before it will be deemed secure possession was made.

JaxRolo · April 9, 2014

Looks like @bam and I were on the same page on this. And the rest of you didn't bother to do your homework. :wave: :smachhead: :shakehead: :givebeer: :lookup :tongue: