Ball Stuck in Fence

[zoops]

Overthrow past 3rd base sticks in a chain link fence about 5 feet off the ground.  The player backing up the play pulls the ball out of the fence after a second or two.  Should this be a dead ball (with base awards?) once the ball becomes lodged?  I can't find specific wording in any rule book.  This was in an NCAA game.

[UmpJM]

Two bases, time of throw or pitch, depending. (most likely throw, on a play at 3B).

 

NCAA 8-3-o(3):

 

 

 

(3) If a live thrown ball goes into the stands or dead-ball area, spectators

or a players’ bench, lodges in the equipment of an umpire, or sticks in

the fence, shrubbery, etc., and provided it is not thrown by a pitcher

from the pitching rubber, the ball is dead.

 

 

JM

[mjr_2013]

I've been told in the past that if the player seems to be making an attempt at the ball, to let him try before killing it... If he raises his hands or it's obvious he cannot get the ball, kill it.

 

Is this an accepted practice or just more BS I was told when younger?

[carolinablue]

I think it's a matter of what can be seen by the umpire. If a ball gets lodged in a fence and I see it, I will call it. I won't give him a chance to pull it out. However, say a ball in the outfield gets lodged in the fence and F9 and F8 are standing there trying to pull it out and are blocking my view and runners are running. I don't know if it's stuck or if they are kicking the ball around. F9 finally pulls it out and throws it in and then starts crying that it was stuck. Sorry, should have let me know before you pulled it out.

[Rich Ives]

I've been told in the past that if the player seems to be making an attempt at the ball, to let him try before killing it... If he raises his hands or it's obvious he cannot get the ball, kill it.

 

Is this an accepted practice or just more BS I was told when younger?

 

 

Lodged is lodged.

[zoops]

Two bases, time of throw or pitch, depending. (most likely throw, on a play at 3B).

 

NCAA 8-3-o(3):

 

 

 

(3) If a live thrown ball goes into the stands or dead-ball area, spectators

or a players’ bench, lodges in the equipment of an umpire, or sticks in

the fence, shrubbery, etc., and provided it is not thrown by a pitcher

from the pitching rubber, the ball is dead.

 

 

JM

 

Would this apply to OBR and FED rule sets as well?

[noumpere]

 

Two bases, time of throw or pitch, depending. (most likely throw, on a play at 3B).

 

NCAA 8-3-o(3):

 

 

 

(3) If a live thrown ball goes into the stands or dead-ball area, spectators

or a players’ bench, lodges in the equipment of an umpire, or sticks in

the fence, shrubbery, etc., and provided it is not thrown by a pitcher

from the pitching rubber, the ball is dead.

 

 

JM

 

Would this apply to OBR and FED rule sets as well?

 

the concept and ruling do but the actual rule reference is different of course.