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This came up in our training class tonight. I imagine it has been discussed here before but humor me anyway.

 

Runner misses first base on a straight through the bag single. Throw comes to first two steps later. Does the ump signal 'Safe" or does he 'No signal'? Some say the no signal alerts the defense that the bag was not touched and a tag out is still possible. Others say if the runners trail leg is beyond the bag to signal safe because it is assumed he touched the bag even though you know he didn't.

 

Personally I prefer to wait for a touch of the bag or a tag of the runner as the rules indicate is necessary to occupy the base.

 

Interested to hear others opinions.

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Once he passes the bag and has beaten the throw he is assumed safe. A safe signalis given. It is the defenses responsibility to inform you of the appeal.

If he passes the bag and the defense clearly alerts you of an appeal. Boom. He's out.

But as a ump you know he has not touched the base which the rules clearly say he must do so why would you award him a base via signal? This mechanic contradicts the rule book nor does it ever say to assume he is safe and to wait for an appeal.

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Once he passes the bag and has beaten the throw he is assumed safe. A safe signalis given. It is the defenses responsibility to inform you of the appeal.

If he passes the bag and the defense clearly alerts you of an appeal. Boom. He's out.

But as a ump you know he has not touched the base which the rules clearly say he must do so why would you award him a base via signal? This mechanic contradicts the rule book nor does it ever say to assume he is safe and to wait for an appeal.

PBUC umpire manual page 53 play 13

"batter-runner hits a ground ball and beats he play at first base bu misses the base"

Ruling 13: the proper mechanic is to call the runner safe , indicating that he beat the play. If the defense appeals by tagging the runner (or base) and appealing that the runner missed first base before the runner return to the base, the batter runner will be declared out. See

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Once he passes the bag and has beaten the throw he is assumed safe. A safe signalis given. It is the defenses responsibility to inform you of the appeal.

If he passes the bag and the defense clearly alerts you of an appeal. Boom. He's out.

But as a ump you know he has not touched the base which the rules clearly say he must do so why would you award him a base via signal? This mechanic contradicts the rule book nor does it ever say to assume he is safe and to wait for an appeal.

 He is safe, until put out on appeal.

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