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Be serious, character doesn't count anymore. If he can score 20 per game, somebody will "give him a second chance".

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The shame is looking at his partner to the left in the film at the 16 second mark just standing there when he gets pushed the first time rather than immediately come running in. Would he have been in time??? Who knows but someone should have been screaming at the kid and immediately comming after him. The coach doesn't move very fast either with the first push. I would have personally bolted off my chair and been screaming at the top of my lungs at the kid to try and divert him as a coach. Both coaches and officials have to be highly aware of things like this that can break out in a game, even in a non-physical game up until the actual incident. Usually it is player on player and the refs have to step in immediately, but this was player on ref and nobody reacted very quickly. You never want something like this to happen but you always have to be on guard that the worst can happen and be ready to immediately react to help, help your partner in this instance, IMHO. Maybe that is not what is taught, just what I would have done, I hope.

And let's see what Dr. Peggy H. Jones does with this one.

And here is an article

http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-high-school-player-pushes-referee-faces-charges/story?id=12405917

Just below the video on the left, click on the 6 year old official--kind of neat when the other Mason Holland piece is so brutal

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Did you watch the clip about the ref hitting a female player? It is unfortunate that there was no video of the fight. The father is selling it as it being all the ref's fault but he takes no responsibility for yakking at the ref after the game, so at best he started the altercation. Now who swung first is to be determined. The female player said she said, "hey man, you can't hit my Dad like that." I'm sure it was a little higher level of excitement than she portrays, this may have led to an accidental hit. If it is found that he did hit the girl on purpose then he is done as a HS ref.

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Did you watch the clip about the ref hitting a female player? It is unfortunate that there was no video of the fight. The father is selling it as it being all the ref's fault but he takes no responsibility for yakking at the ref after the game, so at best he started the altercation. Now who swung first is to be determined. The female player said she said, "hey man, you can't hit my Dad like that." I'm sure it was a little higher level of excitement than she portrays, this may have led to an accidental hit. If it is found that he did hit the girl on purpose then he is done as a HS ref.

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Not originally, however you know as well as I do that a league is only as good as how well you back up your officials, and by that, I do not just handing the paycheck. It starts with proper supervision by administrative personnel and those in charge at all athletic contests, amateur, pro, whatever.

Those are the people who are the first line of defense and there to step up and do what is necessary and right with integrity when things get out of hand in anyway, up to and including providing personal (yes, that means it could be the administrator his/her self basically saying, if you want the ref you are going to have to go through me first) protection for the officials upon their arrival at the sight until they leave the sight. This can also include police protection and an escort to safety even if that includes an escort all the way home.

When things are handled with high expectations of sportsmanship, integrity, doing the right thing, and any other values you want to throw in here including being a class act, everyone knows what is expected of them and any hint of any type of foul play or inciting a potentially negative behavioral situation, will know that this type of behavior will not be tolerated and the violator will be subject to ejection from the premises by the administrator which can also include a police escort off the premises if needed. Those in charge are there for that purpose, not to run and hide and cower in tough situations "if necessary".

The above can be done, and you have been at this long enough to know exactly what my rambling means and you have probably seen examples of the above. However, in today's climate, with what I just rambled on, there may be few people who meet that criteria. It may be few and far between, but when you run into those kind of people, you really appreciate what they stand for and what they do. Really, it is usually a totally class person who knows exactly what is involved and is willing to stand up for what is right. How can we expect the younger generation to carry on, when it is us old farts who continually run from doing the right thing at athletic events, and turn a blind eye to honesty, integrity, sportsmanship and fair play because we ourselves fail to show it or stop it.

In the high school game of the original post, I hope it was the coach and administrator who forfeited the game because it was the right thing to do, and not because the officials might have refused to continue. Whoever was in charge for the school at the high school game should have forfeited and just led the officials off the court and told them they were forfeiting the game and then offered any medical assistance to the ref. In this AAU game, whoever was in charge should have been escorting the officials off the premises with this loudmouth father just to prevent a potential situation from happening, including possible calling for police backup before the end of the game to help escort the father before he even got close to the officials. People lead by example. Amen.

Feliz Navidad prospero ano y felicidad to everyone before we go down.


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