TSSAA Protest Rule

[TNCoach]

Anyone know if Tennessee TSSAA allows a protest?

[TNCoach]

A local team had an issue tonight and the game is under protest. If one is allowed, can the protest be done after the game is over?

[mjr_2013]

I tried to look it up for you, but none of the handbooks I found online for the TSSAA even mention the word "protest"... If a manager attempted to make one, I suggest logging it and contacting your superior.

As far as the second question, if I understand you correctly, no. I have never heard of a proper protest occuring after the conclusion of the game. Every ruleset I know of only allows a protest to occur immediately after the play in question - before another pitch occurs.

--EDIT--

I re-read your second question. If you are asking whether a protest can be heard after a game - yes.. Most non-tournament game protests occur after the game with a commitee or board of some sort.

[UmpJM]

TNCoach,

I have no idea whether or not TSSAA allows protests - I(llinois)HSA does not.

If they do, standard practice for protests (other than tournaments) is that the protest must be "made" immediately following the play in question - prior to a subsequent pitch or play occurring. The protest, specific alleged rule misapplication, and game situation are documented, and the remainder of the game is completed "under protest".

After the game is over, a protest committee reviews the protest to see if a rule was misapplied. If a rule WAS misapplied, AND it was determined to have a material adverse impact on the outcome of the game, the game is resumed from the point of protest at a later date.

So, what was the protest?

JM

[TNCoach]

Thanks. It was a protest about pitching. Two local high schools playing. The pitching rule is that a pitcher can pitch no more than 10 innings on consecutive days. Pitcher starts and throws 4 innings. Next day he starts and throws 7. He has now pitched an illegal inning. Coach says nothing until game is over. Was just wondering. The offending team is my a group of my old players. Was trying to figure out how that will affect them as to whether or not they would be in championship game today.

[catsbackr]

TSSAA does not allow protests.

[TNCoach]

Forgot to say what happened. In the above situation, they apparently do allow a protest. Team A and Team B. Elimination game of tournament. Team A won the previous night and had their starting pitcher throw 4 innings. He started the next day and threw 7. The TSSAA rule is that you cannot throw more than 10 innings on consecutive days. Team B did not protest until the game was over. The next day TSSAA ruled Team A used an illegal player and so was disqualified. Team B assumed that mean they won and was on the bus to play in the conference championship game when they got a call that they were not playing either as the game was protested too late for them to receive the win so the game stood as a loss for them and a vacated win for Team A.

[catsbackr]

TSSAA does not allow protests.

[TNCoach]

Here is an article about the game.

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Sports/article.php?id=100203

Here is another similar story that had a bit of a different ending.

http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/article.cfm?id=207

The first link had no protest brought to the attention of umpires until the game was complete. On the second one, the protest was brought forward in the 6th inning.

[Pete Peterson Sr]

Last postseason in Alabama, two schools protested pitching regulation violations by their playoff opponents. Alabama does not allow on-field protests, such as a misapplication of the rules, but does, however, allow for schools to report the possibility of illegal/ineligible players, or violations of pitching regulations. Both school's complaints were investigated, and confirmed. Their opponents forfeited series victories, and went home. Because of this, we are required to maintain possession of all playoff lineup cards, in the event they are needed in an investigation of this sort.

We are told that we are not to comment on the pitching regulations, and are told to advise the coach that the issue needs to be addressed through the AHSAA. So we do not "accept" a protest of that sort.

[Jimurray]

Similar situation occurring now in Texas.

Protest attempted and declined? and 2 outs later after cell phone call inning replayed without illegal pitcher.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/high_school/high_school_baseball/article/Johnson-outlasts-South-San-after-drama-filled-day-3554671.php

Now another protest that the rule (no more than 10 innings per day if part of a DH) only applies in regular season.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Johnson-edges-South-San-in-disputed-area-round-3560015.php

No rules protest allowed in Texas. Player or pitcher eligibilty is usually not the umpires responsibilty.

[MPLSMatt]

Wouldn't you almost have to allow protests on pitching violations? I certainly don't know how many innings pitcher X threw last night and shouldn't be expected to rule on it.