Is this a balk?

[marlo]

Pitcher in set postition. Runners on bases. It doesn't matter where and how many.

Pitcher stops everytimes before pitching. But...... he stops on differents location. But stops always. Sometimes he stops with both hans on his middle end sometimes he stops with both hands in front of his face.

Who can help me?

[Mr Umpire]

In OBR, it doesn't matter where he stops his hands.

In FED, it has to be below F1's chin (unless that has changed).

In NCAA, I don't know.

[Umpire in Chief]

No balk any code. It's smart pitching changing up the delivery.

[Mr Umpire]

No balk any code. It's smart pitching changing up the delivery.

Did FED get rid of that rule? If no balk in any code, then I guess they did or it is not being enforced.

[Rich Ives]

In OBR, it doesn't matter where he stops his hands.

In FED, it has to be below F1's chin (unless that has changed).

In NCAA, I don't know.

FED is "at or below his chin"

There's a case play that says it's legal if the glove is only partially at or below his chin.

In OBR and NCAA ths stop must be "in front of his body".

[Umpire in Chief]

In OBR and NCAA ths stop must be "in front of his body".

Rich isn't there an interpretaion stating that the "body" is intended to mean "Infront of his person" Ie including neck head... and not "in front of his torso?" I seem to recall that. but have no documentation here.

[JaxRolo]

Did FED get rid of that rule? If no balk in any code, then I guess they did or it is not being enforced.

It is still in FED but I never see it enforced.

Our UIC and other Umps tell me not to call it.

I actually asked them about this happening.

[Rich Ives]

Rich isn't there an interpretaion stating that the "body" is intended to mean "Infront of his person" Ie including neck head... and not "in front of his torso?" I seem to recall that. but have no documentation here.

No, there isn't. Unless something has changed, the head is part of the body (as are the hands which is why they aren't part of the bat) so being in front of the head is OK. No interpretation needed.

Edited June 18, 2010 by Rich Ives

[Rich Ives]

It is still in FED but I never see it enforced.

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FED 6-1-3 "at or below his chin"

Case play 6.1.3 Situation N: "partially above his chin" is legal.

[JaxRolo]

FED 6-1-3 "at or below his chin"

Case play 6.1.3 Situation N: "partially above his chin" is legal.

Thanks,

That clarifies it some.

[Umpire in Chief]

No, there isn't. Unless something has changed, the head is part of the body (as are the hands which is why they aren't part of the bat) so being in front of the head is OK. No interpretation needed.

We're on the same page. Just so many people interpret body to mean torso and not thighs and/or head. :no:

[mstaylor]

As to the OP, the pitcher may vary his set location, his kick or slide step, the duration of his set and the speed of his actual delivery. You will hear coaches complain that he has changed his set but there is nothing illegal in that itsself.

[kwiggie]

FED is "at or below his chin".

Not that you need it Rich but,+1 and it is enforced here