Batter Rulling

[haden98]

Batting a continuous order, a batter is hurt because of a foul ball off the bat. Batter can't resume because of injury.

Should the batter be out ot the next batter up to resume count?

[Paperipper17]

Batting a continuous order, a batter is hurt because of a foul ball off the bat. Batter can't resume because of injury.

Should the batter be out ot the next batter up to resume count?

I believe that the next batter comes up with a fresh count and the injured player is removed from the game without penalty...But I'm going to try to find something in the rulebook addressing that. One would think there almost has to be a penalty or the coach could have his last batter feign an injury to get his leadoff man up with RISP. Good question.

This should probably be moved to the rules or situations forum, however...

[BrianC14]

I believe that the next batter comes up with a fresh count and the injured player is removed from the game without penalty...But I'm going to try to find something in the rulebook addressing that. One would think there almost has to be a penalty or the coach could have his last batter feign an injury to get his leadoff man up with RISP. Good question.

This should probably be moved to the rules or situations forum, however...

What league would this be in?

If a batter cannot continue during his time at bat, a substitute player can replace him, but he will pick up the count that the original batter had against him.

[kcfan102]

I think what he is asking is that when a kid is injured and unable to complete his turn at bat, he dropped from the lineup with no penalty or is there a penalty.

If you're just playing straight OBR than it's an out if nobody can replace him.

But, if you're playing something else and you're batting the entire lineup and a kid gets sick, injured, or something physical that doesn't allow him to complete is at bat the rules might be different. I do mostly USSSA ball, and this is what we go by.

8.02.G A team may continue a game with a minimum of eight (8) eligible players. A player who has left a game for any

reason cannot return to the game.

8.02.G.1 If the player leaving the game is a runner and no legal substitutes are available, the runner is declared out.

Rule 8.02.G.1 Exception: If the player is leaving the game for Communicable Disease Procedure reasons, the player whom recorded the previous out assumes the runners position on base.

8.02.G.2 When a player who has left the game is scheduled to bat and no legal substitutes are available, an out shall be declared for each turn at bat.

Rule 8.02.G.2 Exception: If the player left the game for Communicable Disease Procedure reasons, the players turn in the batting order shall be omitted for the remainder of the game without penalty.

If that player is physically unable to complete his at bat, it sounds like he can be replaced, but if there is no replacement it's an out. However, next time that position in the lineup is due up, there is no penalty.

That player, if taken out, may not re-enter.

[JaxRolo]

What league would this be in?

Only times I have seen it is in T-Ball and Pitching Machine.

Not sure what the ruling is.

[JaxRolo]

If the player left the game for Communicable Disease Procedure reasons

WOW Sounds Nasty :shrug:

[Paperipper17]

What league would this be in?

If a batter cannot continue during his time at bat, a substitute player can replace him, but he will pick up the count that the original batter had against him.

In a traditional FED or OBR game, yes, but he's referring to a continuous batting order game...if everyone's in the lineup already then I really don't know how else it'd be handled. Who would sub in for him?

[Paperipper17]

Nevermind. kcfan answered it for me. With a continuous order, that's what I figured. Brian's right about a substitution game, though...a sub in assumes the count.

[yawetag]

If the player left the game for Communicable Disease Procedure reasons, the players turn in the batting order shall be omitted for the remainder of the game without penalty.

If that player is physically unable to complete his at bat, it sounds like he can be replaced, but if there is no replacement it's an out. However, next time that position in the lineup is due up, there is no penalty.

That player, if taken out, may not re-enter.

That's only for reasons where communicable disease procedures are taking place. Not knowing your local rules, I'm assuming that's, in effect, the "blood rule." For any other reason, it would be an out.

At the local park, the following rules apply:

14.1: The batting order shall not be changed during the game except injured players will be removed without penalty.

14.4: An injured offensive player will be substituted by a courtesy player who made the last out.

So, if a kid gets injured while batting, the last player to get an out replaces him for the at-bat. After that, his turn is skipped without penalty.

[kcfan102]

That's only for reasons where communicable disease procedures are taking place. Not knowing your local rules, I'm assuming that's, in effect, the "blood rule." For any other reason, it would be an out.

At the local park, the following rules apply:

14.1: The batting order shall not be changed during the game except injured players will be removed without penalty.

14.4: An injured offensive player will be substituted by a courtesy player who made the last out.

So, if a kid gets injured while batting, the last player to get an out replaces him for the at-bat. After that, his turn is skipped without penalty.

That's rather strange I think. I've never heard of that happening to a batter. It;s an everyday occurance to have a the last batted out run for a pitcher, catcher, or injured runner but I've never heard of that happening to a batter at bat. Cool.

I see you're from STL, fellow Missourian on the board, good!

As far as the communicable disease, we usually extend that to injury at our USSSA tournaments and and regular league play.

[yawetag]

That's rather strange I think. I've never heard of that happening to a batter. It;s an everyday occurance to have a the last batted out run for a pitcher, catcher, or injured runner but I've never heard of that happening to a batter at bat. Cool.

Neither have I. In fact, I had to pull the rule book to see if it was even stated in there. Surprisingly, it was.

I see you're from STL, fellow Missourian on the board, good!

You say that like we're under-represented here.

As far as the communicable disease, we usually extend that to injury at our USSSA tournaments and and regular league play.

And that makes sense. If it's a common thing, why not change the rule to include injuries?

If a coach complains, they have ground to stand on: The rule says communicable disease, not injury. Of course, the umpire can simply say, "I saw blood on the player, coach."

[kcfan102]

I actually think we're one of the more represent states on here. I think there are 4 or 5 other guys from MO on here.

...and then there are the Canadians :D