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In LL, I've had pitchers remove their sunglasses if we at the plate were getting reflections. Otherwise, I haven't worried about it.

But then the batter doesn't get OBP credit.

But its not a K. Might not even have one strike.

I haven't heard it mentioned? It's not a K, not a BB, not a single. You'd want it to count for OBP so you wouldn't call it a SB. ???

I don't agree with the editorializing in the sidebar: "It goes without saying that if this play occurred 10 years ago at the Major League level, it would have been legal and there would be nothing to discuss. Alas, we now have Rule 6.01(i)..." I've applauded this rule ever since it was added. We don't put up with runner initiated collisions at any other base and home plate should be no exception.

Now i get what you are saying and I agree with you. In fact, I didn't see the tag at third as an appeal at all.

I've been looking for that in the 2019 LL rule book without success. Do you know where that is covered?

Wait, I thought you said the defense stepped on 2nd after the umpire made no call after the tag? The no call, IMO, was correct. You can't tag out a runner who has taken sole possession of a base (two runners on a base - difference story!). The only way to get the out - the way I read the LL manual - is via the appeal.

I believe the defense touching 2nd before the runner gets back is "clearly intended as an appeal". There is no other reason for them to do it other than the appeal. I wouldn't need to hear anything from the defense before ringing up R2.

But the LL 7.01 says "The runner acquires the right to an unoccupied base when the runner touches it before being retired. The runner is then entitled to it until retired or forced to vacate it for another runner..." So the OP was correct to tell the coach the tag at third did not get an out. Since time had not been called, the appeal can happen directly as was done. There is no need to announce an appeal unless there is more than one possible appeal to make and the defense needs to say which runner is being appealed with the touch of the base. That wasn't the case here - there was only one possible runner being appealed at 2nd.

Me three. SA your quote of the rulebook is commendable and I too certainly look for it in these responses. Please keep up the good work!

Good advice! I am sill learning the 'let the game come to you'. I like the way you put that. One thing I'd recommend if you don't already do it - to help slow down your cadence on balls and strikes: watch ever pitch into the mitt, tell yourself 'ball' ort 'strike', then verbalize the call with the correct signal. You'd think that would be too slow but let me tell you its fine and it will keep you from calling something too early. Especially in LL where batters can somtimes not swing until its in the glove!

Don't you love it when a plan comes together? Had my first triple play call this year in a game I was doing solo. That felt good.

IF F4 was late and R1 had no bearing on his ability to field the ball, it's nothing. I don't think you said what level - that could matter as to how much leeway you give the runner to 'hinder or impede".

How about a "Show me the ball!" or use the bobble indication to let everyone know the tag was not completed?

There is an irony here if a good-intentioned batter makes a move to get out of the way - then it would be interference. But as you describe it - it's baseball. Play on.

I've never worn a watch. I carry a phone that shows me the time on the splash screen. I take it out, check the time, and put it back. Just like if it was a fitbit or a watch. It's my timepiece. I agree with you about umps that are checking their messages or texts between innings. But I'm not using my phone that way. Maybe I should get a holder with a fob ring on it so I can attach my phone to a watch fob and take it out that way.

Tournaments around here they tell us to start the clock after the plate meeting.

Both runners advance one base so R3 scores and R2 becomes R3.

I have to agree with biscuit. I have my phone in my back pocket on sillent. Whe the game starts, I go to the scorer, pull it out, and tell them the time we are starting. At the close of innings, I pull it out to check and then put it back. If that's not professional enough for you, well, you can't please everybody.

Of course, d'oh! Just like any other miss of a base. I ove having found this site so it can make me better. Thanks beerguy.

This is why you wait for the defensive coach to appeal the batting out of order. But seriously parents acting like this at a 7-year olds game? Lordy....

Wait a minute, did the runner ever touch 3rd? I read the OP as he did NOT. If this is the case, I call an out for abandonment. If he touched thrid, I score the run after the pitch without an appeal.

I also have my scorekeeper make a note of the start time. When we are at the top of an inning within 15 or 20 minutes of the deadline I will also inform the coaches that this is probably the last one just so there are no surprises.

That's a feint toward first and thus a balk in my book.