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  1. Cav

    8-4-2B or 8-4-2C

    The OP is 8-4-2b and much more. This case play is 8-4-2c. *8.4.2 SITUATION A: On a play at the plate, F2, who is on his knees, is about to receive the throw. R3 decides to hurdle F2 or jump over him feet-first. RULING: The runner is out. A runner is entitled to slide legally or legally attempt to get around a fielder who has the ball waiting to make the tag. Going over the top of the fielder who is not lying on the ground by hurdling, jumping over or diving over the fielder is dangerous and, therefore, illegal. A runner may jump or hurdle a fielder, who is lying on the ground, but diving over a fielder always is illegal. The OP delineates 8-4-2b. The case play above explains 8-4-2c.
  2. Everybody flinches...even in the bigs. Inevitably we wear $500 of protective gear and get hit on a $0.10 application of sunscreen. Stand your ground, keep your gear pointed at the ball and don't let 'em see you sweat.
  3. I also inject into the hitter's lame logic that he's giving up some protection by leaning over the strike zone.
  4. Cav

    Set position

    If F1 came to a complete and discernable stop with his hands joined completely above his chin, the only thing he could legally do is step off. If he began his motion to pitch from that position, it is a balk. If he lowered his joined hands below his chin and came to another complete stop, that is a balk. Save yourself some headaches and teach him to join hands and come to a complete and discernable stop below his chin until he makes money doing otherwise.
  5. Go to a local high school game. Ask one or both of the umpires if you could have their current or past year's rule book, case book and umpires manual. They would most likely let you have them because Michigan umpires know everything already and would never waste their time reading or studying them. Ha! That, or maybe someone more digitally inclined than me can send you a computer link or file of the same content. Be available to any and all assigners. Get book smart. Keep your mouth shut and your eyes open. Plan on being a rookie for your first five years for each level you work, making rookie mistakes but always learning. After five years you will have probably seen most situations at that level. Join your local association and volunteer to teach and/or moderate a class on any topic. No better way to learn than to teach. Oh, and drop softball.
  6. Because my "bible" tells me so at 6-1-3, a publication by coaches, for coaches.
  7. There is no restriction where F1 positions his gloved hand in the wind-up position. Where in the rules for the wind-up position does it state that the glove be "in front of the body?" It is not considered an advantage to make a snap throw from a higher set position. It just looks stupid and NFHS doesn't want their kids looking bad. (A little humor!) I don't see a conflict regarding the wind-up. 2.28.3 C states F1 moved both arms simultaneously, then stopped. That's a start-stop infraction. 6.1.2 C states F1 moved one arm to join hands. That's legal. The TOP begins from the wind-up when F1 moves two arms and/or and arm and the non-pivot foot simultaneously.
  8. Baseball myth #37: The pitcher must step off the rubber before a pick-off throw.
  9. One fielder is "protected" when playing a batted ball. In the first part of your OP, F6 would be that "protected" fielder while making his play on either a ground or fly ball and the onus is on R2 to avoid him. In the second part of your OP, the onus is on F6, while waiting on a thrown ball and not in possession of that ball (NFHS) or not in the immediate act of fielding a thrown ball (OBR) to not impede R2's progress, barring (spell check, please) any intent to interfere by R2.
  10. http://www.ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Officiating/dod/BlueBook20172ManOnly.pdf
  11. From OHSAA DoD Baseball Bulletin 18-2: o Rule 2-33-1 (page 24) permits for certain Speed Up Rules Suggested speed-up rules § Ohio’s Stance: NONE of the suggested speed-up rules have been adopted in Ohio for all games. § However, in non-league games, coaches may agree to use any, all or any part of suggested speed-up rules. Agreement must be reached prior to the start of the contest.
  12. No. No. Both outs stand because R3 was putout at 3B with a live ball and the BR is out for passing an unobstructed preceding runner during a live ball.
  13. IT’S A SIMPLE GAME Baseball is a game played by two teams: one is out and the other is in. The one that is in sends its players out one at a time to see if they can get in before they get out. If they get out before they get in then they come in, but it doesn’t count. If they get in before they get out then it does count. When the one team that is out gets three outs from the other one that is in, by getting them out before they are in, then the team that is out goes in and the team that is in goes out to get those in out before they get in without being out. When both teams have been in and out a certain number of times, the game is over. The team with the most in, without being out before they come in, wins, unless the other team has an equal number in. In that case, the last team in goes out to get the other one in out before they get in without being out. Then the game will end when each team has had the same number in out, but one team having more in without being out before coming in. - By someone other than me; Carlin, maybe.
  14. Cav

    Hecklers

    Welcome back. (1) When fans affect the playing of the game is when you say something, but not to the fans. Umpires don't talk to fans or to anybody else not allowed on the playing field. The person to talk to is the site manager (field rep, home AD or coach, et. al.) preferably between innings, but stop the game and don't proceed any further until the situation is rectified, if necessary. (2) You don't acknowledge fans. (3) No. (4) Ignore him until you can't, then see (1) above. (5) Never make eye contact with a fan unless it is biologically necessary and has been discussed thoroughly during your pregame with your partner. The word "fan" stands for "fanatic" and its synonymous with extremist, militant, bigot, radical, diehard, maniac, freak, wacko. Fans are not necessary to play a ballgame. I've umpired several hundred games when there were no fans present at all and the games went on as if they weren't necessary to begin with.
  15. I have MC, immediate dead ball, R3 is out #3 and EJ'd, OBS superseded, no run, we move into the bottom of the 5th inning, make some notes on the card, ask VHC for the sub's name, tell F1 and the ODB, "Two more." NFHS 2-21-1, 3-3-1m Penalty, 5-1-1e, 8-2-9, 8-4-2e, 9-5-2 Exception 5
  16. NFHS MC supersedes obstruction.
  17. NFHS uses what has been described as "the string theory" when it comes to runner interfering with a fielder's try to play on a batted ball. http://umpire-empire.com/topic/64266-runner-hit-by-batted-ball/
  18. NFHS 2-18-1 states, "An illegal pitch is an illegal act committed by the pitcher with no runner on base, which results in a ball being awarded the batter. When an illegal pitch occurs with a runner, or runners, on base, it is ruled a balk." The only legal act an in-contact pitcher can do from the hybrid position is legally disengage.
  19. Nope.
  20. Cav

    Jon

    Only in my games do things like this happen. And then they do so with uncanny regularity. Thanks for the spell check.
  21. No, I wrote "baring" on purpose: I would rule intent to interfere with F2's throw if the next hitter came to the plate and deliberately exposed himself. Larry Barnett used those very words to explain his no call in the '75 WS on the famous Armbrister-Fisk entanglement. OBR 6.01(d) PLAY: Batter hits ball to shortstop, who fields ball but throws wild past first baseman. The coach at first base, to avoid being hit by the ball, falls to the ground and the first baseman on his way to retrieve the wild thrown ball, runs into the coach. The batter-runner finally ends up on third base. Whether the umpire should call interference on the part of the coach is up to the judgment of the umpire and if the umpire felt that the coach did all he could to avoid interfering with the play, no interference need be called. If, in the judgment of the umpire, the coach was attempting to make it appear that he was trying not to interfere, the umpire should rule interference.
  22. B/R is doing what's he's supposed to be doing - taking advantage of F2's ambivalence. The on-deck hitter is doing what he's supposed to be doing - coming up to bat. Baring intent to interfere with a thrown ball, I've got no basis on which to penalize the offense. The play stands.
  23. Cav

    Jon

    Yep, baring a restriction and/or an ejection. NFHS 2-21-1; 2-27-2; 3-3-1; 5-1-1 e., g,; 8-3-3 c., d.; 8-4-2 g.; 10-2-3; 10-3-1.
  24. Cav

    Jon

    Yep, baring intent.
  25. Nope. NFHS 9-1-1 EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out is made as follows: a. by the batter-runner before he touches first base. .
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