Do you let things go?

[soapbox]

Doing a LL Minors game the other night. Competitve. Both teams can play baseball well enough. Tight game thru 4, 3-1 for the HT. Without too much detail, I had consecutive wild pitches with bases loaded to go to 4-3. Coach is screaming for F1 to call time and when he finally does, I don't grant. Just wanted to kill the play. No need. Coach is yelling at me and I explain why I didn't grant. Coach yells he wanted time to change F1. Fine coach, you should've asked, but no problem (of course that isn't why he wanted time). Then over the next 2 innings in a game that kept changing leads, I had BR contact a ball in fair territory, OBS at 2B on a single to CF with R1 advancing to 3B, and lastly BR advancing to 1B on topper in front of F2 where he was a good foot inside the line. Ball sailed to outfield and I had INT. All the calls were right, but from the reaction of the coaches and parents who don't know rules, of course I heard how I'm going to make every odd call to show my knowledge. Honestly was just calling the obvious. On the OBS, I had one parent mockingly say I didn't know the game because if anything the call is INT. My question is, do you ever find yourself taking the calls down to the level of the coaches? Mind you, I said coaches, not players. The joke is, at least 3 coaches on the 2 teams were travel coaches.

[sdix00]

I swear I could have written this post after this last week.

I feel you.

[Dragon29]

My question is, do you ever find yourself taking the calls down to the level of the coaches?

No. If they're well-behaved, I might take a little extra time to educate them when appropriate, but I'm not changing how I call the game simply because the coaches don't get it. If I did that, I wouldn't be able to call anything in most lower division LL games. They haven't a clue.

[mtnump]

My question is, do you ever find yourself taking the calls down to the level of the coaches?

No. If they're well-behaved, I might take a little extra time to educate them when appropriate, but I'm not changing how I call the game simply because the coaches don't get it. If I did that, I wouldn't be able to call anything in most lower division LL games. They haven't a clue.

+1.

[Rich Ives]

Doing a LL Minors game the other night. Competitve. Both teams can play baseball well enough. Tight game thru 4, 3-1 for the HT. Without too much detail, I had consecutive wild pitches with bases loaded to go to 4-3. Coach is screaming for F1 to call time and when he finally does, I don't grant. Just wanted to kill the play. No need. Coach is yelling at me and I explain why I didn't grant. Coach yells he wanted time to change F1. Fine coach, you should've asked, but no problem (of course that isn't why he wanted time). Then over the next 2 innings in a game that kept changing leads, I had BR contact a ball in fair territory, OBS at 2B on a single to CF with R1 advancing to 3B, and lastly BR advancing to 1B on topper in front of F2 where he was a good foot inside the line. Ball sailed to outfield and I had INT. All the calls were right, but from the reaction of the coaches and parents who don't know rules, of course I heard how I'm going to make every odd call to show my knowledge. Honestly was just calling the obvious. On the OBS, I had one parent mockingly say I didn't know the game because if anything the call is INT. My question is, do you ever find yourself taking the calls down to the level of the coaches? Mind you, I said coaches, not players. The joke is, at least 3 coaches on the 2 teams were travel coaches.

Ball sailed to outfield and I had INT.

Was the throw catchable by the fielder covering first?

[catsbackr]

Doing a LL Minors game the other night. Competitve. Both teams can play baseball well enough. Tight game thru 4, 3-1 for the HT. Without too much detail, I had consecutive wild pitches with bases loaded to go to 4-3. Coach is screaming for F1 to call time and when he finally does, I don't grant. Just wanted to kill the play. No need. Coach is yelling at me and I explain why I didn't grant. Coach yells he wanted time to change F1. Fine coach, you should've asked, but no problem (of course that isn't why he wanted time). Then over the next 2 innings in a game that kept changing leads, I had BR contact a ball in fair territory, OBS at 2B on a single to CF with R1 advancing to 3B, and lastly BR advancing to 1B on topper in front of F2 where he was a good foot inside the line. Ball sailed to outfield and I had INT. All the calls were right, but from the reaction of the coaches and parents who don't know rules, of course I heard how I'm going to make every odd call to show my knowledge. Honestly was just calling the obvious. On the OBS, I had one parent mockingly say I didn't know the game because if anything the call is INT. My question is, do you ever find yourself taking the calls down to the level of the coaches? Mind you, I said coaches, not players. The joke is, at least 3 coaches on the 2 teams were travel coaches.

Ball sailed to outfield and I had INT.

Was the throw catchable by the fielder covering first?

Good question.

If it's OBR, it's gotta be a QUALITY throw.

[soapbox]

Yes, he was struggling with the body coming at him.

[Rich Ives]

Yes, he was struggling with the body coming at him.

Let;s rephrase it: Was the throw close enough that the fielder could catch it? I'm not comfortable that it was.

[soapbox]

Ok, let me state this again. BR interfered by running in fair territory well beyond 30 feet. And had interference not occurred, assuming there is no error on the play, it would have resulted in an out.

[UmpJM]

Ok, let me state this again. BR interfered by running in fair territory well beyond 30 feet. And had interference not occurred, assuming there is no error on the play, it would have resulted in an out.

soapbox,

As described, there is no interference on this play under LL rules.

JM

[soapbox]

Ok, now I'm interested in taking my licks. I guess after 3 months of the Fed course, maybe I need brushing up. I will go to my rule book and follow up, but please explain why this isn't interference. What am I misunderstanding? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

[Rich Ives]

Ok, now I'm interested in taking my licks. I guess after 3 months of the Fed course, maybe I need brushing up. I will go to my rule book and follow up, but please explain why this isn't interference. What am I misunderstanding? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Because you took the FED course - any throw can cause interferencee.

But LL is played inder OBR, and under OBR the throw has to be a quality throw - in other words the fielder has to be able to catch it. If it wasn't catchable then there was nothing to interfere with.

[soapbox]

Ok, I didn't explain it well. The throw was chest high and catchable. But the throw did not hit the runner. The fact that the fielders view was partially obstructed is what made me call the INT. The throw doesn't have to hit the runner, does it?

[JaxRolo]

Ok, I didn't explain it well. The throw was chest high and catchable. But the throw did not hit the runner. The fact that the fielders view was partially obstructed is what made me call the INT. The throw doesn't have to hit the runner, does it?

On the OP you said "Ball Sailed to outfield". Just didn't sound like a chest high throw.

[soapbox]

Jax, you're right, my partner on the forum said it sounded that way too. My bad. Very poor choice of words. Chest high, wide left, but catchable. I will choose my words more carefully in the future. I must admit, I could have kicked it if the throw wasn't catchable and ruled the same way. So thanks Rich for clarifying the difference in LL to H.S.