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Can anyone tell me why Joe West and his crew needed to spend more than 5 minutes to determine that ball was out of play and make the appropriate 2 base award. F2 stops moving thrown ball by F7 at the lip of the dugout, but his entire  body fell into the dugout with the mitt / ball still on the lip. Was there some doubt as to whether this was a dead ball? 

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5 minutes ago, jjskitours said:

Can anyone tell me why Joe West and his crew needed to spend more than 5 minutes to determine that ball was out of play and make the appropriate 2 base award. F2 stops moving thrown ball by F7 at the lip of the dugout, but his entire  body fell into the dugout with the mitt / ball still on the lip. Was there some doubt as to whether this was a dead ball? 

Was it time of F7s throw or did F2s momentum (that TOT) make it a dead ball.  Need to decide .

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Either way R2 scores so only question is where was R1. Was he already at 2nd base when F2 went into dugout (?). I assume so or there would be no question. I’m being questioned based on a short video of F2 stopping the ball and immediately falling into the dugout. If ball had stopped no question, agreed. In this case TOT. 

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12 minutes ago, jjskitours said:

Either way R2 scores so only question is where was R1. Was he already at 2nd base when F2 went into dugout (?). I assume so or there would be no question. I’m being questioned based on a short video of F2 stopping the ball and immediately falling into the dugout. If ball had stopped no question, agreed. In this case TOT. 

It's being discussed elsewhere on this forum -- and this is not the issue.

It's a rare play -- thus, the discussion


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