Set position (Must move leg?)

[mbrown2097]

Watching a 12u game yesterday and a fellow umpire balked a pitcher because he didn't get to a set position.  Coach questioned the call and was told that the pitcher "can't just use his arms to get to a set position, he also has to use his legs."  Ok, so I know that's a load but this umpire is a bit of a hot head and won't easily change his mind.  I know there is major league pitcher that has a very subtle set position. He just move his free hand to his glove with no other gyrations. I can't think of his name. If I can get a name, I'll show him a video and hopefully that will at least get him to rethink the balk rules.

[maineump]

So is your question does he have to move his feet/legs?

[noumpere]

6 minutes ago, maineump said:

So is your question does he have to move his feet/legs?

His question is "who is the MLB pitcher I described and where can I find a video of him?"

[ALStripes17]

His question is "who is the MLB pitcher I described and where can I find a video of him?"

Because that video is in the rule book

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[maven]

OBR pitching regulations have two sentences relevant to "coming set," both in 5.07(a)(2):

"Before assuming Set Position, the pitcher may elect to make any natural preliminary motion such as that known as 'the stretch.'"

"Preparatory to coming to a set position, the pitcher shall have one hand on his side; from this position he shall go to his set position as defined in Rule 5.07(a)(2) (Rule 8.01(b)) without interruption and in one continuous motion."

Neither of those requires moving the legs. If it ain't illegal, it's legal.

All codes agree.

[mbrown2097]

I could certainly take the rule as shown above to him and I will probably do that; however, it would be beneficial to have a video of a pro for extra support. 

[ALStripes17]

I could certainly take the rule as shown above to him and I will probably do that; however, it would be beneficial to have a video of a pro for extra support. 

The statement "well the pros (don't) do it" is never a valid argument, even with video. If he's unwilling to read the black and white or any adjoining interpretation, then you are trying to persuade a totem pole.

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[mbrown2097]

6 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

 then you are trying to persuade a totem pole.

Yes, that's pretty much the case.  I'll just go with the rule. Hopefully he'll at least consider taking another look at the balk section. 

[Rich Ives]

2 hours ago, noumpere said:

His question is "who is the MLB pitcher I described and where can I find a video of him?"

Sabathia

[maven]

Sabathia moves his foot.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v593854283

[mbrown2097]

Person I am thinking of is a righty.