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High school varsity is the setting with me as PU and my partner BUR1 is stealing and batter hits the ball sharply to F6 who fields and throws to F4F4 receives the ball going back towards right field and then goes to throw to F3 to complete the double play.  I see my partner signal safe and indicates off the base and then turns with the throw which ends up being wild.  R1 slides no where near the base and into F4 so I immediately come up calling time to indicate a FPSR violation.  I now have the offensive team coach yelling everyone is safe and the defensive coach yelling everyone is out.  I immediately get both quiet and rule that R1 is out for an illegal slide and that the BR is out as well as a result.  Defensive coach obviously agrees while offensive coach is upset.  He is arguing that since R1 was safe that I could not rule this way.  He was adamant and eventually had to be restricted to the dugout.  Now I am about 99.9% sure that I got this right and my partner agrees, but I am looking for a little more thumbs up from the group.  Thoughts?

 

 

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If R1 slides nowhere near the base, then he has violated the FPSR (technically not an illegal slide, just a FPSR violation). The penalty you imposed is correct.

 

8-4-2b requires that slides on a force play be on a "direct line between the bases," and the requirement applies both to runners and retired runners.

 

Also: good mechanics by you to stay with this runner and get this violation. The BU properly turned with the throw to rule on the play at 1B. If R1 were close enough and wide enough, he, too might have gotten this (and ignored the throw).

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It's interferernce - kill the play, call the outs.  

 

From the 2015 BRD:

 

Play 216-350: FED only. R1 moving on the pitch. B1 hits to the shortstop, who
tries, not in time, for the out at second. The second baseman throws the ball to
first, after which R1 pops-up on the base, jostling the fielder. Ruling: Though the
contact occurred after the throw and did not alter the play, it resulted from an
illegal slide: Both R1 and BR are out.

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