Easiest Ejection Ever

[semper_fi_72]

Wanting to know the status of the opposing teams pitchers can be accomplished without having their manager tossed on a technicality. Most of them are rats. If they weren't they wouldn't have waited until the championship game to question the opposing teams book. Please dont preach to me about the virtues of baseball coaches. I've had a manager in a BR senior regional wait until they'd lost a game lodge a protest afterwards because coaches on the opposing team didn't have perfectly matching uniforms. I had one rat lodge a protest in a LL district tournament for not having the prescribed amount of batting helmets available for a team. He did it AFTER his pitcher plunked a kid in the head and cracked his helmet! I've seen coaches berate their own pitchers for wanting to come out of games because their arms started hurting. Go read the thread I put up today about having to eject four individuals in one game. RATS!!

Tim.

1.  I read your thread you posted.  It happened years ago.  How long do you dwell on things?  I have had kids carried off the field by paramedics and never encountered a problem with any type of injury on the field as you describe.  Glad all the "Rats" are in Indiana.

 

2.  When should they ask for the opposing teams pitching log if they did not play each other in Pool Play and maybe until the Championship game weren't even playing at the same facility?

 

3.  Where in LL Rules does it state what the minimum number of helmets a team must have?  Did you do a equipment check pre-game to ensure the equipment was sufficient and serviceable, as is required in LL Rules?

 

Otherwise I have never encountered "Rats" on the baseball field.

I have how ever encountered a few "A**holes" but I don't classify a entire group of people based on a few.

 

Food for thought.

Is calling Baseball Managers/Coaches "Rats" any different then labeling any other Ethnic, Religious, Nationality, etc Group any different?

[SJA]

Your #3 - LL Rule 1.16, in part:

"1.16 - Each league shall provide in the dugout or bench of the offensive team six

protective helmets (7 protective helmets for Junior/Senior/Big League) which must

meet NOCSAE specifications and standards."

[semper_fi_72]

Your #3 - LL Rule 1.16, in part:

"1.16 - Each league shall provide in the dugout or bench of the offensive team six

protective helmets (7 protective helmets for Junior/Senior/Big League) which must

meet NOCSAE specifications and standards."

Thank you

Didn't remember that one.

 

I have thrown enough helmets out (pre-game) because of cracks or stickers that teams had to share helmets so they would have enough to play.

Some leagues are just scraped for money to buy new equipment.

[SJA]

That's an interesting concept on your "Food for thought".

Let's see: Baseball Official = Ump = Blue = YOU(&@!^%*^! . . . so, I guess "Ump" and "Blue" are a derogatory reference also! . . . I've heard it first hand!

;-)

[SJA]

Some leagues are just scraped for money to buy new equipment.

You got my thinking again along the lines of my post "Disheartened" ref LL.

Back when I was active in our LL League, we had an "equipment manager" that was diligent in keeping track of the equipment lent out to the teams. If it needed replacing or additions, he'd make sure you got it, just ask. He held the Managers, Coaches, and PARENTS responsible for the RETURN of them at the end of the season, eliminations, or disbanding of the teams. Penalty? . . . "they" PAID for ANY missing or non returned equipment. Never had a problem.

Fast forward to the same League with "new EQ Manager(s)". Equipment not available, missing, none new, replaced, or added to. Excuse? . . . "well we had some here" . . . "we had it last year!?" . . . "can't buy anything, no money".

Sorry for the "venting" but it's sad to see a once well organized League go to He//.

SJA :-(

[BigUmp56]

Lou, you're indeed a blessed umpire if you haven't had to deal with rat coaches. I choose to call them rats on umpiring forums because the guys who have been at this awhile know exactly what I mean when I say it. When you say a$$holes it could mean a number of individuals from TD to AD.

Tim.

[mstaylor]

I was sent a PM recently asking what a rat was. My answer was it was a phrase coined many years ago to describe a certain class of coach. Ones that try to put kids in with concussions, won't pull them when their arm is hurting, tries every stupid ploy to gain an advantage, these are rats. Not all coaches fall in that group, but there are plenty that do. On the other hand there are a special group of umpires that deem OOO's or smittys, sometimes the two groups cross. 

[BigUmpire]

I was sent a PM recently asking what a rat was. My answer was it was a phrase coined many years ago to describe a certain class of coach. Ones that try to put kids in with concussions, won't pull them when their arm is hurting, tries every stupid ploy to gain an advantage, these are rats. Not all coaches fall in that group, but there are plenty that do. On the other hand there are a special group of umpires that deem OOO's or smittys, sometimes the two groups cross. 

What is an OOO?

[BigUmp56]

OOO = Overly Officious Official

Tim.

[mstaylor]

The original was Overly Officious Oaf but deviated to Official. 

[HokieUmp]

 

Food for thought.

Is calling Baseball Managers/Coaches "Rats" any different then labeling any other Ethnic, Religious, Nationality, etc Group any different?

 

 

Apples and oranges, and I think you know that.  (See how I used food in reply?  I planned that. )

 

Being part of an ethnic or religious group or nationality is something one is born into.  Being a douche is something that one becomes, NOT as a result of ones parentage.  Therefore, 'rat' is NOT a protected class.  Coaches that are rats earned that designator.