LL baserunning question

[th3]

0 outs...1st and 3rd...runner on 1st leaves early and gets thrown out at 2nd...meanwhile runner on 3rd leaves properly and scores..does he go back?

[Rich Ives]

0 outs...1st and 3rd...runner on 1st leaves early and gets thrown out at 2nd...meanwhile runner on 3rd leaves properly and scores..does he go back?

If you're talking a "left before the pitch reached the batter" leave-early then the runner that was on 3rd goes back.

[th3]

i thought that but could not find it

[Rich Ives]

i thought that but could not find it

7.13 - and read the examples.

It's realy simple actually. On a 7.13 violation, all outs stand. After the outs are determined, no runner can advance unless forced by the batter's safe advance. Anyone not forced and not out returns to his TOP base.

[catoblue]

...and to add to that, leaving early by one runner effects all runners.

[Scuzzyfeller]

7.13 - and read the examples.

It's realy simple actually. On a 7.13 violation, all outs stand. After the outs are determined, no runner can advance unless forced by the batter's safe advance. Anyone not forced and not out returns to his TOP base.

I still LOVE the possible;

Bases loaded...one of them left early...the ball doesn't make it through the infield...all runners including the BR are safe....BUT....BUT....BUT....

The run DOESN'T COUNT...

The " P O O F---R U L E " I think Rich?

Scuzz

[Rich Ives]

I still LOVE the possible;

Bases loaded...one of them left early...the ball doesn't make it through the infield...all runners including the BR are safe....BUT....BUT....BUT....

The run DOESN'T COUNT...

The " P O O F---R U L E " I think Rich?

Scuzz

You got it. R3 is removed from the bases - no run scores.

[catoblue]

You got it. R3 is removed from the bases - no run scores.

RIM says to instruct scorekeeper to put an X through that runner's at-bat box and write in 7.13© POOF!!!!!!

Never have had to call it, but it's bound to happen eventually!

[1dumbquestion]

so bases loaded B4 hits to F6 who throws the ball halfway into right field, all runners score BR ends up on 3rd from errors. do all runner "poof" if one left early? if so I'm sure I wouldn't have "seen" the leaving early. if he is thrown out at 3rd all runner return to thier TOP base correct? thanks 1

[ukce1861]

so bases loaded B4 hits to F6 who throws the ball halfway into right field, all runners score BR ends up on 3rd from errors.

In your original situation, it's BR on 1st, R1 on 2nd, R2 on 3rd and R3 poofs. As for "not seeing it", that's why you're supposed to drop the flag when the infraction occurs. It's a rule. Just like the rest of them, we have to enforce it, even if we don't like it...

[Rich Ives]

so bases loaded B4 hits to F6 who throws the ball halfway into right field, all runners score BR ends up on 3rd from errors. do all runner "poof" if one left early? if so I'm sure I wouldn't have "seen" the leaving early. if he is thrown out at 3rd all runner return to thier TOP base correct? thanks 1

You throw the flag as soon as you see the violation. You can't undo it.

Only R3 goes poof.

B-R to 1B, R1 to 2B, R2 to 3B.

And yes, it the B-R is thrown out everyone returns.

[catoblue]

so bases loaded B4 hits to F6 who throws the ball halfway into right field, all runners score BR ends up on 3rd from errors. do all runner "poof" if one left early? if so I'm sure I wouldn't have "seen" the leaving early. if he is thrown out at 3rd all runner return to thier TOP base correct? thanks 1

BR can not advance beyond 1B on a single or an error, 2B on a double or 3B on a triple - UIC judgment determines value of hit.

Since this was an infield hit/E6, BR only gets 1B, everyone else except R3 is returned to the base forced to by BR reaching 1b, and R3 goes "poof!" - back to the bench, no out recorded and no run scored. Scorekeeper puts an x through R3's box and writes 7.13© (rule reference)

A 7.13 violation affects all runners, all outs made count, and any open bases as result of outs recorded, provide the necessary real-estate for more runners to be returned.

Edited July 22, 2010 by catoblue