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19 hours ago, umpstu said:
Good to see Joe West on the field.
Yep and when Joe hits the field as a "full time" umpire on either Sunday or Monday of the opening games of the season, he becomes the only umpire to work 38 years as a "full time" umpire on the field. If he works 121 games like last year he will pull within 100 games of Bruce Froemming #2 spot for games worked in a career. On the last year of the current contract 2019 he will have 5305 games worked and pull within 70 games of current leader Bill Klem. If working into 2020 as the third umpire to work at 68 years old after HOF Hank O'Day and Froemming, he will catch Klemm in late July or early August of 2020.
If he would like to retire on his "first game as a call up"/first MLB game, birthday so to speak, that day would be September 14, 2020. He worked his first NL MLB game in Atlanta with the Houston Astros in town. His crew chief was Paul Pryor (and future apparel bag businessman, Paul Pryor travel bags), a North Carolinian like Joe, with the other crew members of John McSherry and Art Williams. Joe had only been working MiLB since 1974, so he only completed 3 full years of Minor League ball before working his first "call up" at 23 years old in late September.
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10 hours ago, Gfoley4 said:
Was just thinking about this. Teams often make wholesale changes during spring games and it seems like that would be a real pain to keep writing down pinch hitters.
edit: lineup card, not scorecard
10 hours ago, udbrky said:I wondered that today when the Cubs had back to back batters with the same #
https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/835616957508407296/photo/1
I think this photo answers the question.
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All I know is the PU was a former Pacific Coast League umpire who has worked 3 NCAA Regionals in his spare time.
I would assume, maybe incorrectly, he has worked hard and is a good umpire who knows a lot about umpire equipment at this stage, and what works for him.
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On 1/16/2017 at 3:42 PM, Gil said:
"Imperfect Game" umpire Jim Joyce has retired with crew chief promotions to Sam Holbrook and Paul Emmel, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. No official announcement has yet been made. In 2014, Joyce granted an interview to the Portland Tribune in which he stated that he...
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Torres is the first from the Major League Umpire Camp initiative program with De Jesus trying to become the 2nd umpire from the initiative to move into a full time position. Torres (38) also becomes the first MLB umpire since the 70's to start their MiLB career at the age of 30 or greater. rookie league at 30 years 9 months in 2009.
David Arrieta is now trying now to become the 2nd to make MLBU after starting MiLB at 30 years old or older (Arrieta was 32 starting in the GCL in 2012) and is now a rookie in the PCL. At 37, they will have to move him very quickly into AFL, probably this October, then Spring Training and then maybe a fill in spot just like Morales and Hoberg received very quickly below. If he makes it full time into his 40's, he will become the first since Terry Cooney in the 70's at 41 and only 5 days shy of his 42 birthday.
Morales becomes the first to achieve in quite some time (whenever/whomever that time/person last occurred was) to have '**never** worked a full season worth of AAA games (140) before being promoted to full time MLBU status'. Looks like between 105-115 AAA MiLB games were all he ever worked in 3 1/2 years of AAA status and the rest were "call up" MLB games. Only 15-20 AAA plate jobs in that 1/2 AA, 1/2 AAA season in 2013 before opening the 2014 MLB season as a call up at the start of his 6th season. Of course Hoberg was right there beside him only working 15-20 AAA plate jobs in 2013 before that 123 game MLB call up schedule in 2014, although he did work about 150 total AAA games, but only about 30-35 total AAA plate jobs since they work 4 man a lot now, before his new promotion to Full Time. So, only 5 years of MiLB (quicker than most can get a Masters Degree) before working a 123 game MLB call up schedule in 2014. That is the goal to work for. AAA at some point (at the beginning of, or at the half way point) in the 5th year of MiLB and then an AFL assignment in October, then a Spring Training assignment, and then "call up" MLBU status with 75-125 games that 6th season in pro ball. Pro rated game fee of ($150,000 divided by 162 game schedule=$925 per game) and a 470 per diem fee per day.
Not one of the 4 new hires ever worked a AAA National Championship/World Series Game.
Only Hamari, Hoberg and Morales worked a futures game and only Hamari and Hoberg worked the plate on that game.
Torres was the only one to work a AAA All-Star game.
Hamari and Hoberg only worked 1 Arizona Fall League while Morales and Torres worked 2.
Let's see if that young (26 this year) phenom, Travis Eggert, can jump right in after Spring Training, get a number, and then get the same amount of MLB games as the other young (26 last year) phenom Nic Lentz received (105) last year.
Ron Teague seeks to become the 1st Doug Harvey award winner from the California League to become a full time MLBU.
All the 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 Doug Harvey award winners have achieved AAA status so far. Blake Davis, Ryan Goodman, and Chris Gonzales who have retired with Davis and Goodman previously receiving an AFL and ST assignment and Gonzales a 2014 Venezuela assignment. Ron Teague has now received an Arizona Fall League assignment and Spring Training invitation. 2014, 2015, 2016 winnners Sean Allen, Reid Gibbs and Patrick Sharshel respectively, are all in AA now.
Other AAA retirements after 2016 include Joey Amaral, Jonathan Bailey, Joe Born, Max Guyll, Matt McCoy, Derrick Mollica, from the International League and Seth Buckminster, Chris Gonzalez, Anthony Johnson, Thomas Newsom, Alex Ortiz, Alberto Ruiz, from the Pacific Coast League for a total of 12 AAA retirements.
And concerning retiring Jim Joyce. Here is the MAC First and Second Team Selections for 1976. Looks like a few MLB players on the list.
WWW.MAC-SPORTS.COM1976First TeamP -- Bob Owchinko, Eastern MichiganP -- Bob Welch, Eastern MichiganP -- Kip Young, Bowling GreenP -- Mike Rachuba, ToledoC -- Jerry Keller, Eastern Michigan1B -- Emil Drzayich, Ohio2B -- Les Ream, Ohio3B -- Bob Brenly, OhioSS -- Glenn Gulliver, Eastern MichiganOF -- Demetrius Sanders, Ball StateOF -- John Northrup, Central MichiganOF -- Len Matuszek, ToledoDH -- Marty Frank, ToledoSecond TeamP -- Tom Sharon, Ball StateP -- Dave Dusellier, Western MichiganP -- Mark Knust, Western MichiganP -- Jim Joyce, Bowling Green1B -- Dave Lewis, Central Michigan2B -- Bob Utter, Kent State2B -- Dan Hall, Miami3B -- Bob Brannock, Ball StateSS -- Jerry Tyson, ToledoOF -- Dave Krauss, Kent StateOF -- Jim Millward, Western MichiganOF -- Bob Grandas, Central MichiganDH -- Mike Ranier, Ohi -
And in your travels as an official and something really bad happens, maybe you could consult with this guy if needed.
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Another injury over the weekend.
Good thing this game, like the one in the OP had a 4 man crew, or it would be back to the old 2 man crew.
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=211487536
and another one in the Arkansas game. Another 4 man crew.
http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/feb/18/ua-staff-does-job-in-opener-20170218/
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Just go to many, many clinics, and start in Middle School, then JV High School, then Varsity High School, and then onto the Collegiate Levels.
Make sure, if possible, coaches are tied to the schools as teachers for more accountability.
Be careful
http://abc13.com/sports/judge-apologizes-after-heckling-umpire-/1543369/
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3 hours ago, lawump said:
To be clear, this is a North Carolina drafted and enacted rule. It applies to them, only. It is not a FED rule.
Having said that, I umpired in North Carolina for two years. Neil Buie is a fantastic assignor! I also umpired about 20-25 games with this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Allen when he was still just working high school football (and baseball) games. Goes to show, you never know where your partner may be in 15 years! LOL.
So, does his (Brad Allen's), back judge go by the name of Hercules, Jr. ???????????????? with the biceps to prove it????????. Inquiring minds want to know.
And, you sissy, are you a football ref now or what??? Make a decision one way or the other. So, did you work a plate job this weekend or were you on holiday going from 3rd to 2nd to 1st. How are those hamstrings???????? Don't rub it????????
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Well the complaints have started in D1, to be followed by all levels of baseball, LL-MLB, no doubt.
Good thing the BIG 12 uses 4 umpires (there you go with that up and coming new umpire (neat built in system to use if they will)-(work as the PU on non-con till ready for Conference, and then also work a 4 man on Conference games on weekends, so they get to see you there as well, for 3 games on the bases, before being cleared for Conference as a PU as well as a BU). 3 games on the bases, can't beat that for $1,650.
By using 4 umpires for the games, when a PU or other injures out of a game you still have the 3 man system in place. If only a 3 man system to start with, you are back to a 2 man. Better keep those 2 man skills up to snuff just in case.
And, to be fair the second area of the article in Bold, mentions how Texas had chances to win the game in spite of the disagreement on the field, but did not capitalize on their opportunities.
http://hookemheadlines.com/2017/02/17/umpires-2017-texas-baseball-opener/
Good luck to all umpires everywhere (and to HDS especially, a very good umpire who shares the things he has learned over the years with us, since I have picked on him), and my apologies to anyone I have ever offended when I have made some tongue in cheek comments, that should not have been made).
Hopefully I can get out to watch a few games again this season as in the past.
Have a great season.
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1 hour ago, Richvee said:
I was watching MLB network a few nights ago and they had clips of Capps throwing a bullpen session in Spring training. Leiter and Smoltz were on , and both said they would think it's illegal. They played his new bullpen session side by side with pitches from a MLB game 2 years ago, and this recent session, he was crow hoping more than ever. Literally pushing off the rubber,landing and pushing again. In the MLB game, you could make case he's dragging the foot. This week, from what I saw, it has turned into a blatant crow hop.
Is this similar to the crow hop/jump/whatever/ type situation that was made illegal in Women's Softball??? If so, in this situation, I definitely believe that train of thought wins the day.
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3 hours ago, grozzly said:
Hello everybody !!
Couldn't find a topic on Carter Capps' delivery
Why not calling that an illegal pitch? Why would it be legal ? I need your opinions...
Since this is an umpire's website (you might have a better chance of mentioning an umpires name), you might????? have a better chance of going by subject matter (why not a balk?, etc) than going by a player name. Not saying players names have not been mentioned before (many times) by any stretch of the imagination.
But to answer your question, see below.
Now, you will have to call the MLBU who was on the rules committee at this time---it use to be Brian Gorman (2016), to see how he voted on this particular delivery situation. Did he vote for a balk or did he vote the delivery was legal? And, if he voted balk, did he get out-voted by the other committee members and by how much. How did all the members vote??Or was the umpire on the committee even consulted as well as all the members on the committee consulted. Who knows. Write a letter to the MLB office and have them forward the letter to the MLBU that was on the committee at the time and see if they respond.
P.S.----------That motion 'did not' prevent Tommy John surgery just in case anyone would like to know.
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Here we go from this particular State in baseball/softball.
https://laurinburgexchange.com/sports/8958/nchsaa-cracking-down-on-discipline-in-baseball-softball
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And everyone does know that this emphasis came about because players were being taught/coached, specifically/and intentionally on pick offs, to drop that knee and full body in front of the whole/entire base at first, each and every time to block the runner off the bag and get the out every single time, not like the way you see in MLB where they catch and put a quick glove tag on the runner or a swipe tag if he tries for the back of the bag, while giving the runner the back half of the bag.
Of course MLB has a way of dealing/policing, rightly/or wrongly, for certain intentional situations that might arise on the field of play from time to time, and other levels may use some of these techniques also, for better or worse.
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It took that extra "infrared" technology, rather than camera IR technology to see the ball brushing the shoe several years ago, but infrared is not used in IR.
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Saves 4 wimpy pitches on the arm. Is pitch count next? The late Dr. Jobe and Andrews should be happy. But, will it put Andrews out of business if this continues.
Raise zone at knees to old American League way of the past. Batters hitting for higher average, means more pitches and longer games when the ball is elevated and less balls beat into the dirt for groundouts although the fielder may muff the ball, on a ball put in play on the ground that would now be let go. Longer games as pitchers try to be 'too fine' all around the zone, and trying to keep the ball in the yard and out of the gaps.
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Is this the year baseball raises the strike zone? Is it the year the sport does away with the practice of lobbing four balls toward home plate to issue an intentional walk? Major League Baseball has made formal proposals to the players' union to usher in both of those changes, sources told ESPN.com.
Neither of those innovations can be implemented without approval of the Major League Baseball Players Association. The union is currently in the process of feeling out players on the proposed changes, sources said. For either or both to take effect this season, an agreement would have to be reached "sooner rather than later," said one source, because spring training games begin in just two and a half weeks.
MLB's proposal would raise the lower part of the strike zone to the top of the hitter's knees. Since 1996, the bottom of the zone has been defined as "the hollow beneath the kneecap." But data shows that umpires have been increasingly calling strikes on so many pitches below the knees that, if umpires enforce the redefined strike zone, it would effectively raise the zone by an estimated 2 inches.
Barry Bonds receives an intentional walk in 2007. Kyle Terada/USA TODAY Sports
The change in the intentional-walk rule would end the long-standing practice of requiring the pitcher to toss four soft pitches outside the strike zone. Instead, a team could just signify it wants to issue an intentional walk, and the hitter would be sent directly to first base.
Both proposals are part of MLB's attempts to streamline what commissioner Rob Manfred often refers to as "pace of action." But the two changes would have far different impacts.
Getting rid of the old-fashioned intentional walk would eliminate about a minute of dead time per walk. In an age in which intentional walks actually have been declining -- there were just 932 all last season (or one every 5.2 games) -- that time savings would be minimal. But MLB sees the practice of lobbing four meaningless pitches as antiquated, so eliminating them would serve as much as a statement as it would a practical attempt to speed up the game.
The change in the strike zone, however, could have a much more dramatic effect, MLB believes. Its intent is to produce more balls in play, more baserunners and more action at a time when nearly 30 percent of all hitters either walk or strike out -- the highest rate of "non-action" in the game's history.
Neither side is certain yet how players will respond to the new proposals, but sources indicate that the change in the intentional-walk rule is more likely to be approved for this season than the raising of the strike zone. Players have mixed feelings about the redefined strike zone; shrinking the zone helps hitters and hurts pitchers, so if there is a path to a consensus among players, it is difficult for either side to see one developing in the next couple of weeks.
Sources said MLB presented the two proposals to the union in late January, after they were agreed to by both its competition committee and playing-rules committee. If the changes sound familiar, it's because, as ESPN.com reported last May, MLB also felt out the union on both proposals last year, sources said.
However, the players were lukewarm at the time, telling MLB they were open to revisiting the ideas in the future. Now that the two sides have negotiated a new labor deal, they are expected to explore a variety of ideas designed to speed up pace of play.
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2 hours ago, Stk004 said:
My entire viewing party apologized for yelling at him.
If we are talking about the LJ. Jeff Seeman
It is not the gentleman's first trip to the Rodeo. Worked Super bowl 44 as the LJ also.
Father, Jerry, worked Super Bowls 23 and 25 as the referee.
But that doesn't mean, just like anyone, he could not miss one.
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On 1/16/2017 at 3:42 PM, Gil said:
"Imperfect Game" umpire Jim Joyce has retired with crew chief promotions to Sam Holbrook and Paul Emmel, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. No official announcement has yet been made. In 2014, Joyce granted an interview to the Portland Tribune in which he stated that he...
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old story
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/06/from_the_archives_jim_joyce_on.html
old poll, if you like polls.
Results of an umpire survey commissioned by the Major League Baseball Players Association at the end of the 1998 season. Players, coaches and managers completed the survey.
One consistent theme among the umpires who rated lowest was their low tolerance.
NL President Leonard Coleman also did not put much credence in the survey. "The players can have their opinion," he said. "But you look' at who was near the bottom, and they tend to be the ones who are less popular with players and managers.
AMERICAN LEAGUE...........................................NATIONAL LEAGUE
1. Tim McClelland................................................1. Jerry Crawford`......................33. Bruce Froemming
2. Jim Joyce.........................................................2. Ed Rapuano..........................34. Joe West
3. Richie Garcia....................................................3. Ed Montague........................35. Eric Gregg
4. John Hirschbeck...............................................4. Randy Marsh.......................36. Charlie Williams
5. Mike Reilly.........................................................5. Frank Pulli
6. Drew Coble........................................................6. Jeff Kellogg
7. Terry Craft..........................................................7. Greg Bonin
8. Tim Tschida........................................................8. Kerwin Danley
9. Dale Scott...........................................................9. Charles Reliford
10. Tim Welke........................................................10. Mark Hirschbeck
11. Dave Phillips....................................................11. Dana DeMuth
12. Jim McKean....................................................12. Bob Davidson
13. Rocky Roe.......................................................13. Steve Rippley
14. Rick Reed.........................................................14. Tom Hallion
15. Mark Johnson...................................................15. Rich Rieker
16. Gary Cederstrom...............................................16. Jim Quick
17. Dan Morrison.....................................................17. Bruce Dreckman
18. Derryl Cousins...................................................18. Brian Gorman
19. Larry McCoy......................................................19. Bill Hohn
20. Jim Evans..........................................................20. Paul Schreiber
21. John Schulock...................................................21. Mike Winters
22. Larry Young........................................................22. Sam Holbrook
23. Don Denkinger...................................................23. Jerry Meals
24. Larry Barnett......................................................24. Gary Darting
25. Al Clark...............................................................25. Wally Bell
26. Chuck Meriwether...............................................26. Larry Vanover
27. Greg Kosc...........................................................27. Gerry Davis
28. Dale Ford............................................................28. Jerry Layne
29. Joe Brinkman......................................................29. Terry Tata
30. Ted Hendry..........................................................30. Larry Poncino
31. Durwood Merrill...................................................31. Angel Hernandez
32. Ken Kaiser............................................................32. Harry Wendelstedt
Physical Condition..AL 1.Hirschbeck, 2.Joyce, 3.Reilly, 4. Garcia, 5. McClelland, 28. Barnett, 29. Merrill, 30. Kosc, 31. Roe, 32. Kaiser.
NL 1.Rapuano, 2. Kellogg, 3. Hernandez, 4. Danley, 5. Montague, 32. Layne, 33. Wendelstedt, 34. West, 35. Froemming, 36. Gregg.
Physical and Mental Toughness. AL 1. Joyce, 2.McClelland, 3.Garcia, 4. Reilly, 5. Craft, 28. Ford, 29. Kosc, 30. Hendry, 31. Merrill, 32. Kaiser.
NL.1.Rapuano, 2.Crawford,3.Montague,4.Marsh, 5. Hallion, 32. Layne, 33. Williams, 34. West, 35.Froemming, 36. Gregg.
Accuracy of base calls AL 1.McClelland, 2. Joyce, 3. Garcia, 4. Hirschbeck, 5. Reilly, 28. Meriwether, 29. Kosc, 30. Kaiser, 31. Hendry, 32. Merrill.
NL 1.Crawford, 2. Montague, 3. Rapuano, 4. Marsh, 5. DeMuth, 32.Wendelstedt, 33. West, 34. Froemming, 35. Gregg, 36. Williams.
Accuracy of plate calls AL 1.McClelland, 2.Joyce, 3.Garcia, 4.Reilly, 5.Craft, 28. Ford, 29, Kosc, 30. Meriwether, 31. Hendry, 32. Merrill.
NL 1.Crawford, 2. Davidson, 3.Rapuano. 4.Montague, 5. Marsh, 32. Wendelstedt, 33. West, 34. Froemming, 35. Gregg, 36. Williams.
Consistency AL 1.Joyce, 2.McClelland, 3. Garcia, 4. Hirschbeck, 5. Reilly, 28. Ford, 29. Hendry, 30. Kosc, 31. Meriwether, 32. Merrill.
NL 1.Montague, 2. Rapuano, 3. Crawford, 4.Marsh, 5. Pulli, 32. Hernandez, 33. West, 34. Froemming, 35. Gregg, 36. Williams.
Temperament AL 1.Joyce, 2.McClelland, 3. Reilly, 4. Craft, 5. Meriwether, 28. Barnett, 29. Shulock, 30. Brinkman, 31. Kosc, 32. Kaiser.
NL 1.Marsh, 2.Rapuano, 3.Montague, 4.Crawford, 5. Wendelstedt,32. Poncino, 33. Davis, 34. Hernandez, 35. Froemming, 36. West.
Respect for player AL 1.Joyce, 2.McClelland, 3.Reilly, 4.Craft, 5.Phillips, 28. Ford, 29. Kosc, 30. Shulock, 31.Brinkman,32. Kaiser.
NL 1. Marsh,2.Rapuano, 3.Montague, 4.Pulli, 5. Wendelstedt, 32. Poncino, 33. Layne, 34.Hernandez, 35. Froemming, 36. West.
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27 minutes ago, catsbackr said:
NAIA doubleheader, 37 degrees at game time. Man, you gotta love early season college baseball!
But, I believe in your neck of the woods you will be sweating profusely (in temperature and humidity) 'much quicker' than others throughout the country as a PU.
Go luck on your season and go get em Tiger.
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I will take either score - 96 or the 98 as long as I know when I went on the field that.
1. Breaking the plane of the 'back edge of the rubber' with the "whole foot" (not just 'any part') is a balk.
2. Breaking the plane of the 'back edge of the rubber' with the stride leg is a balk.
I just wish I knew as much as HDS and many others on here and could retain the knowledge.
I just enjoy the learning aspect of the different levels and of course the nuances of the way the test questions are written.
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6 hours ago, Haid D' Salaami said:
It also says .. " Or stride leg" which makes it a balk.
I agree with the balk since you are looking for 2 things(::::::or::::) as the 1BU as posed by the question. You are looking at the foot totally breaking the plane """""""or""""" the knee breaking the the back edge.
If """""either"""" occur by the pitcher with one of those ******double funky leg moves****** you got a balk. One of those old Whitey Ford moves.
With the original question, the first part of the question with his move would give you 'no balk' (false) but the second part of his move 'is a balk' (true).
So, I agree with HDS or his buddy.
Answer is True IMHO and I am a Z ball nobody.
Boy, and I thought that---may, may not----shall, shall not----will, will not, High School Test I got a look at from someone out of the old days was tricky.
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On the echo part. Why did they even have to say the initial/calling umpire should 'step up'? Are the initial/calling umpires not stepping up? So, they are the initial caller and then just letting their partners take all the grief? How would one even get College games by being the initial caller and letting everyone else handle all the crapola. Seems like that person wouldn't even/ever call a balk to start with. What gives?
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I think we would all be remiss, going back to the OP, if we did not mention that in some areas, things 'could' be very 'territorial', and with some assignor's the situation 'might be' you are either 'with me' or 'agin me'.
As long as you work for them, and only them you are fine. That 'could' even mean you cannot work LL for free.
As some have mentioned above, many assignor's would bend over backwards to help and replace you with their lower level assignment, for the opportunity to work a higher level.
Many Collegiate assignors 'might' work closely with local High School assignor's just for substitution purposes in some tough situations.
But others, would not help you at all, as you would be considered, a traitor for lack of a better term. It could be that they want a piece of that Higher League, to increase their own 'business' if you will, and might have been 'turned down' for whatever reason to assign the League you are requesting to beg off a game for. Therefor, there is no incentive for them to try and help you from that angle.
Other's just might be miserable old/young cusses, who are fine with you moving up and wish you every good wish imaginable. But, if you break with them to move to a higher level, it is now over with them. Basically they think or know they own you. If you cannot get a very full schedule at that higher level right off the bat, oh well. Don't come crying to them that you only got 3 games and now you still want your 30 High School games. It's me or them, don't blame me, I am the good guy. I wished you well from the bottom of my heart. Go blame the Higher League for giving you the 'measly 3 games', rather than a 'full schedule' like you had from 'day one' with me. And in some areas, better ball might mean, 3 games to start, 5 games the next year, 7 the next, 9 the next and so on and so forth, and that could be just the non-conference, with the Conference working the same way on your journey to a full schedule at the Conference Level or some type of Higher Level ball. Each assignor handles things differently and the way they want to handle it, no questions asked.
So, all officials everywhere have to figure out how things work in their area and play by the rules. You can always walk right out that same door you walked in and quit officiating, or in some areas, even though the travel would ratchet up, you could switch to another area for your officiating and a more gracious assignor concerning this subject.
The above is not a right or wrong concerning the situation above. And, each assignor is allowed to handle things the way they want to handle things. Some might be considered nicer than others if we took a pole. Of course there is also the option of becoming an assignor yourself in the future and making the decision yourself on how to handle the issue with your staff.
Good luck to all newcomers on this issue.
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On 1/25/2017 at 6:47 AM, Ricci67 said:
Hey Guys!
I'm 23 years old and signed up for my first season with my our local high school association. I also signed up with a booking agent that covers rec, travel and showcase ball to try to get more games in. (SWMBO is going to kill me if I keep dropping money before I get paid)
I did 12u and 10u rec ball my Junior and Senior years of high school and am looking forward to getting back into it. I've been reading the forums here and it's been really beneficial.
Anyways I just wanted to introduce myself here. If any of the vets out there have any tips or sage advice for me I'd love to hear it. Hope everyone has a great season.
Did a little research for you, with the area you are in.
Below is a chart. You will notice the areas and one should stick out for you.
Touch base with this person. I did some research on said person.
Anything you would need to know about baseball umpiring, and I mean anything, could be answered by this individual, or this person has the contacts to find the answer.
And, if this person thinks you got the goods, you can go far.
Nuff said.
http://www.nchsaa.org/officials/regional-supervisors-officials
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1 hour ago, jjb said:
Let's go with Sit #2, first. I think we're all agreed that, if we ALL see the balk, we're ALL calling the balk. That's easy, and we can honestly tell the coach what we saw; "dropped the ball in contact, Coach."
But, in Sit #1, you've mentioned that "I probably couldn't see the motion and can only echo". Well, now you've got to tell the coach that you saw something you couldn't see, (and he may bring that fact up to you). I agree, a good partner will pull you out from under the bus, but, you're banking on his professionalism to keep you from looking stupid. Personally (and Haid, there's nothing that can't come up for debate among friends
), I don't see the advantage to the echo and can see a disadvantage.
Here are the 2 important sentences from UIC concerning situation #1.
Only sentence 1 below from UIC should be happening at the level this post is attached to IMHO.
"1. It is up to U3 to know the situation and take control. "He should be heading our way and say something like, "hey coach, I've got this call." Only a complete horse-$#!+ umpire would leave a fellow umpire hanging in that situation.
IMHO Calling umpire sees the coach walking in the echo's direction, he heads him off at the pass. Trust me, the Manager/Coach knows who the "point man is for the balk" and 'who the echo's are'.
"2. If I were not bailed out by the calling umpire, my theory is that for better or worse I'm now stuck with this call.
IMHO if "2 is happening all over the country in lots of cases, good luck. What, are guys worried about, their schedule, and so they go hide after calling a balk so their echo get's all the crapola. If that's the way it is, law of the jungle, to make sure the coach writes down the correct balk caller to complain to the assignor, good luck. I would expect this scenario to be occurring more at lower levels than the level this post is in.
Outside Chest Protector
in Free For All
Posted
here is an old one (mask) and I see nothing wrong with it, if this guy could wear it.
And he wasn't just seeing puff balls, with Nolan Ryan, J.R. Richards, Dwight Gooden, Randy Johnson, Rob Dibble
https://www.google.com/search?q=dutch+rennert+umpire+mask&biw=1890&bih=914&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5jK6KybHSAhUC6yYKHWQ3BFcQsAQIKw#imgrc=Prirq87ilcPPMM:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dutch+rennert+umpire+mask&biw=1890&bih=914&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5jK6KybHSAhUC6yYKHWQ3BFcQsAQIKw#imgrc=ikfeRcIPZh_xEM:
Take the outside of the chest protector and do the breast stroke into the arm straps and bring your hands down to the middle on the chest protector at the bottom. Now spread the hands about 4 inches apart at the most, or they can be butted together and dig the fingers into the bottom 1/4 of the bottom part closest to your mid section and of course make sure your elbows are in tight. No chicken wing elbows exposed. Pull the protector tightly under you chin. Set up right in the middle of the plate. When the batter hits the ball, slide the right arm out of the strap and reach up with the left hand to take the mask off, without the hat coming off, and tuck the chest protector under your left arm and against the left side of your body. Do not throw the protector on the ground when going to third. Keep it tucked under all the way to third. Watch the play and if you have to give a safe call, this is when the protector strap will slide halfway down your arm. You can keep it tucked with the out call. Tuck it back under your arm to jog back to the plate.
Or, you can cheat and just use the strap in the middle the best you can. The above was the way it was taught apparently at the schools years ago, and that was what you had to do. Remember, you still had to take the mask off without the hat coming off. Of course nowdays, with the concussion issue, right over the middle of the plate would probably not be in the best interest of places to be. Probably an inside position like using an inside protector but using the outside protector.
Cheers.