force out at 1st ?

[Bob B]

play at 1st base , force out ...     hello , I was playing 1st base   .  I dove for a ground ball towards 2nd base . got up with the ball in my glove   ran 15 feet towards 1st base had to dive and tag with my glove/ball in it.     I touched 1st with the glove ball inside before the funner got to 1st . as I was on the ground the ball came out after I hit the bag.    umpire called him safe . I think he was out on the force out . like a transfer play . I don't have to hold on to the ball.   what are your thoughts 

 

Bob 

[maven]

A fielder can tag 1B to retire the BR before he touches the base by holding the ball securely in hand or glove and touching 1B with any part of his body.

Some codes explicitly state, and others accept, that "secure possession" will survive contact with the base. When the ball pops out during the tag as a result of the fielder tagging the base, that's not secure possession, and thus no tag.

I agree with the umpire's ruling.

[Tog Gee]

17 hours ago, Bob B said:

as I was on the ground the ball came out after I hit the bag.

Did the ball come out "well after", "shortly after", or "immediately after" hitting the base? Or something else?

Edited July 22, 2024 by Tog Gee