Last time by

[mrumpiresir]

The principle of "last time by" is explained in the NFHS and the NCAA rule books, but I cannot find any reference to it in the OBR.  Does this mean it is not a thing in MLB?

NFHS;

8.-2-6(l). Last Time By. If a runner correctly touches a base that was missed (either in advancing or returning), the last time he was by the base, that last touch corrects any previous baserunning infraction.

NCAA;

Last Time By

SECTION 52. If the runner retouches a base or bases in advancing to the awarded base, or in returning to the original base occupied at the time of the pitch, his failure to touch a base in returning is corrected under the theory that touching the base the last time by corrects any previous error. Note:: When a runner touches a base after an award, this touching corrects any previous base-running infraction.

[MDFinny]

Definitely a thing since it happened in the Red Sox v Yankees game.

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[mrumpiresir]

The situation in the Yankees Red Sox game was not the last time by.  It was just a runner failing to touch second base on the way back to first.  He never corrected his missed base.

[TOMUIC]

Last time by is definitely part of the OBR. You can find it in the MLBUM.

[Jimurray]

23 minutes ago, mrumpiresir said:

The principle of "last time by" is explained in the NFHS and the NCAA rule books, but I cannot find any reference to it in the OBR.  Does this mean it is not a thing in MLB?

NFHS;

8.-2-6(l). Last Time By. If a runner correctly touches a base that was missed (either in advancing or returning), the last time he was by the base, that last touch corrects any previous baserunning infraction.

NCAA;

Last Time By

SECTION 52. If the runner retouches a base or bases in advancing to the awarded base, or in returning to the original base occupied at the time of the pitch, his failure to touch a base in returning is corrected under the theory that touching the base the last time by corrects any previous error. Note:: When a runner touches a base after an award, this touching corrects any previous base-running infraction.

It is a thing in OBR. Addressed in previous PBUCs and current MLBUMs/MiLBUMs. What is different in OBR now is a runner can correct a deliberately missed base according to Wendelstedt.

[TOMUIC]

Does NCAA align with OBR (Wendelstadt), or do they concern themselves with a base being deliberately missed as Federation does? I am hoping they treat LTB just as OBR does?

[Jimurray]

19 minutes ago, TOMUIC said:

Does NCAA align with OBR (Wendelstadt), or do they concern themselves with a base being deliberately missed as Federation does? I am hoping they treat LTB just as OBR does?

I was under the impression that NCAA treated it as does FED, but as we know, things change. So I don't know.

 

[TOMUIC]

Fair enough. However knowing how closely aligned NCAA is with OBR, and since they don’t make any specific statements regarding deliberately missed  bases, at the moment I am inclined to think that they would interpret LTB  just like OBR. As Wendelstadt indicates, who needs  to judge “by how much” a  base is missed and what a runner’s intentions are . It just makes so much more sense to just apply the concept of LTB as it is written. 

[TOMUIC]

Actually there are several posts on this site in the recent past that have indicated that NCAA treats “last time by” just like federation ,as per Paronto in 2013.

So unless they have made an official change since then, it appears that they are siding with federation, which is unfortunate.(IMO)