Local League Rule ?

[mbrown2097]

10U USSSA with a few Homer rules thrown in.

 

"Pitchers may only pitch 6 innings per week and no more than 5 consecutive innings per game and one day's rest between outings."

 

Not sure what constitutes an outing.  If a pitcher pitches to 4 batters and records 0 outs.  Bad day, but is that an outing?   In my view, it's a poorly worded league rule but now I have to interpret it.  Any suggestions on how to handle this?

[ALStripes17]

10U USSSA with a few Homer rules thrown in.

"Pitchers may only pitch 6 innings per week and no more than 5 consecutive innings per game and one day's rest between outings."

Not sure what constitutes an outing. If a pitcher pitches to 4 batters and records 0 outs. Bad day, but is that an outing? In my view, it's a poorly worded league rule but now I have to interpret it. Any suggestions on how to handle this?

He went out to the mound and was a recorded pitcher, it's an outing.

[JaxRolo]

I know our utrip rules say outs recorded.

You can have a team record 20 runs in an inning and if the pitcher never recorded an out he never pitched.

[mbrown2097]

Ouch.  I was afraid of this.  Jax and Stripes, that's exactly what I am wrestling with. League rule doesn't clarify what an outing is.  Does anyone have a reference to USSSA or OBR that clarifies at all?

[blue23ll]

I say let the people who made the rule deal with enforcing it!!

[JaxRolo]

Our utrip.

1 out = 1/3 inning

2 outs = 2/3

3 outs = 1 inning

[basejester]

As it's a safety rule, I'd interpret it strictly until told otherwise.   An outing is in any time he's a pitcher.

[Stan W.]

I'm remembering a quote from my dear friend Michael S Taylor.........

 

"They may make the rule, But I'm the one who interprets it"...................

 

 

If the local fools make local rules that are that vague, then it falls on us to make it work in the framework of the game we find ourselves.......

 

so if I'm deciding .......

 

Then:

 

1 pitch is 1 inning Pitched...(pretty common and accepted interpretation in many codes)

 

or:

 

If one pitch is not thrown after entering as a pitcher, that pitcher would not be credited for a game pitched....(so 1 pitch is a

pitching outing per OBR rule 10)

 

Then:

 

1 inning pitched is an outing.

 

And that's my interpretation for todays game........please feel free to take this to the jackwagons who wrote this vague monstrosity and clarify it at a board meeting....

 

Play ball........

Edited May 6, 2014 by Stan W.
clarity

[mbrown2097]

Our utrip.

1 out = 1/3 inning

2 outs = 2/3

3 outs = 1 inning

Yes, that how our utrip works too. Just this league has written it out in some goofy wording.

I'm tempted to cite the rule below and rule that he was not charged with any innings pitched. 

 

7.05.C.5

 

For all cumulative totals in this rule, one (1) out equals one-third (1/3) of an inning, two (2) outs equals

A pitcher that pitches in a game

and records no outs is not charged with any innings pitched.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Lurker]

While there are many LL rules I'm not fond of, by using pitch counts LL has IMO done the best job of making the pitching limits match the intended goal of protecting pitchers.  (Yes, there are some side effects, but other than having coaches that we trust to do the right thing, the LL model seems to be the best proxy.)

 

My two cents on interpretting the poorly written house rules:  taking the mound is an "outing," even if it doesn't count as an "inning" because no outs are recorded by the pitcher.

[JaxRolo]

Our utrip.

1 out = 1/3 inning

2 outs = 2/3

3 outs = 1 inning

Yes, that how our utrip works too. Just this league has written it out in some goofy wording.

I'm tempted to cite the rule below and rule that he was not charged with any innings pitched.

7.05.C.5

For all cumulative totals in this rule, one (1) out equals one-third (1/3) of an inning, two (2) outs equals

A pitcher that pitches in a game

and records no outs is not charged with any innings pitched.

Yep that's standard for utrip.

[tjwoelfel13]

My league has a pitching limit of 8 innings per week and no more than 4 per game.