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1B Umpire Doug Eddings ejected Braves C Gerald Laird and 1B Freddie Freeman and HP Umpire Paul Nauert ejected Brewers CF Carlos Gomez for fighting (Unsportsmanlike-NEC) in the top of the 1st inning...

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So the run never scores correct?

The run still counts. If a player is ejected during a play, all play continues until stopped. Then the ejection takes affect. In this instance, the umpires, appear to have decided that Gomez, who hit the home run, and was ejected, would be too much of a risk to flair things up again, by coming out and continue to score, which he would have the right to do. The umpires arbitrarily awarded home plate to Gomez, and the run counts. No appeal is allowed on this play.

 

Rule 9.01(D): Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play.

 

Yes, I got this one right! :smachhead:

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So the run never scores correct?

The run still counts. If a player is ejected during a play, all play continues until stopped. Then the ejection takes affect. In this instance, the umpires, appear to have decided that Gomez, who hit the home run, and was ejected, would be too much of a risk to flair things up again, by coming out and continue to score, which he would have the right to do. The umpires arbitrarily awarded home plate to Gomez, and the run counts. No appeal is allowed on this play.

 

Rule 9.01(D): Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play.

 

Yes, I got this one right! :smachhead:

 

 

Don't overlook that the BR is clearly obstructed by F2 before the EJ happened.  So the award of home is far from arbitrary.

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So the run never scores correct?

The run still counts. If a player is ejected during a play, all play continues until stopped. Then the ejection takes affect. In this instance, the umpires, appear to have decided that Gomez, who hit the home run, and was ejected, would be too much of a risk to flair things up again, by coming out and continue to score, which he would have the right to do. The umpires arbitrarily awarded home plate to Gomez, and the run counts. No appeal is allowed on this play.

 

Rule 9.01(D): Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play.

 

Yes, I got this one right! :smachhead:

 

 

Don't overlook that the BR is clearly obstructed by F2 before the EJ happened.  So the award of home is far from arbitrary.

 

You cannot have obstruction on a dead ball situation, which occurs on a home run, except 4.09 Comment, which refers to fans rushing the field, but that does not apply here. The award of home was arbitrary by the umpires to avoid any flare up, as by rule 9.01c, 9.01D; Gomez is entitled to finish his trot and touch home plate.

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So the run never scores correct?

The run still counts. If a player is ejected during a play, all play continues until stopped. Then the ejection takes affect. In this instance, the umpires, appear to have decided that Gomez, who hit the home run, and was ejected, would be too much of a risk to flair things up again, by coming out and continue to score, which he would have the right to do. The umpires arbitrarily awarded home plate to Gomez, and the run counts. No appeal is allowed on this play.

 

Rule 9.01(D): Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play.

 

Yes, I got this one right! :smachhead:

 

 

Don't overlook that the BR is clearly obstructed by F2 before the EJ happened.  So the award of home is far from arbitrary.

 

How can you have OBS on a dead ball HR?

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You can't get obstruction but I do believe they used 9.01c to keep things under control. Technically the Braves would have a case for an appeal but that would be rewarding them for their catcher jumping in the runner's face. It was a stupid play on both sides of the ball so the umpires decided to take the point of least resistance. Not exactly according to Hoyle but effective. 

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I locked the second thread in this section to address this. I will leave this one open for now since it is in Gil's section. I will re-address that later. 

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You can't get obstruction but I do believe they used 9.01c to keep things under control. Technically the Braves would have a case for an appeal but that would be rewarding them for their catcher jumping in the runner's face. It was a stupid play on both sides of the ball so the umpires decided to take the point of least resistance. Not exactly according to Hoyle but effective. 

 

I believe you are right.  (for a change) :wave:

 

9.01c is the only thing that makes sense here.

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You can't get obstruction but I do believe they used 9.01c to keep things under control. Technically the Braves would have a case for an appeal but that would be rewarding them for their catcher jumping in the runner's face. It was a stupid play on both sides of the ball so the umpires decided to take the point of least resistance. Not exactly according to Hoyle but effective. 

 

I believe you are right.  (for a change) :wave:

 

9.01c is the only thing that makes sense here.

 

So Mike agrees with my position and I'm wrong, and he's right? WTF.? He said the same damn thing.

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You can't get obstruction but I do believe they used 9.01c to keep things under control. Technically the Braves would have a case for an appeal but that would be rewarding them for their catcher jumping in the runner's face. It was a stupid play on both sides of the ball so the umpires decided to take the point of least resistance. Not exactly according to Hoyle but effective. 

 

I believe you are right.  (for a change) :wave:

 

9.01c is the only thing that makes sense here.

 

So Mike agrees with my position and I'm wrong, and he's right? WTF.? He said the same damn thing.

 

You made your answer to complicated for a simple Cuban like me to understand.

 

If that is what you said then I apologize.


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