Is 2nd base vacant here?

[Concernedcitizen2]

At 0:19 you see the U2 running over to make the call at 3rd.  There is presumably a runner on his way to 2nd and the batter-runner is on his way to first, so does U1 rotate over to get 2nd? And then would PU go to cover first leaving home open when a bad throw would allow the runner going to third to come home?

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play?content_id=29825697

[noumpere]

Once the ball drops, PU goes back home and U1 and U2 "slide" -- U2 has third for all runners and second for R1 and R2.  U1 has BR at first and BR into second.

 

If the ball had been caught, PU would rotate to third and U1 would rotate home as soon as R2 committed to third (which likely would not have happened on this play because the ball was too shallow).

[Mudder]

Do you think this should have been IFF?

[noumpere]

Do you think this should have been IFF?

Very close once F6 starts to put up his hand to indicate hes taking it.  Much like the play last year.

[maineump]

 

Once the ball drops, PU goes back home and U1 and U2 "slide" -- U2 has third for all runners and second for R1 and R2.  U1 has BR at first and BR into second.

 

If the ball had been caught, PU would rotate to third and U1 would rotate home as soon as R2 committed to third (which likely would not have happened on this play because the ball was too shallow).

 

PU does not leave the plate in 4 man anytime a runner is in scoring position, regardless of outs. The only time PU will rotate in 4 man is with nobody on and someone goes out (either to 1B if U1 goes, or 3B if U2 / U3 goes) and with R1 and U3 goes out - he would then go to 3B.

 

With R1 / R2, as stated above U1 / U2 will slide over. The textbook mechanic is for U2 to move in to the mound area, take R2's tag, and bounce to 3B. If U2 is a bit slower, a crew can modify coverage and let him move straight to 3B and U1 can pick up R2's tag as he comes in.

 

It depends on the size of the field and if the crew is comfortable with 4-man mechanics. In some systems PU will rotate to 3B with R1 or R2 on a tag-up - depends on who goes out. Most guys will stay home with R2 and 2 outs.

With R1 & R3 situation, PU may rotate to 3B after watching touch at the plate, if the U3 goes out.

If PU rotates, then the U1 HAS to be sure to rotate home to cover the play at the plate.

If U1 goes out then the PU may have touch responsibilities at 1B as well.

 

There are also slide situations when U1 & U2 slide to cover the infield.

[noumpere]

 

 

 

PU does not leave the plate in 4 man anytime a runner is in scoring position, regardless of outs. The only time PU will rotate in 4 man is with nobody on and someone goes out (either to 1B if U1 goes, or 3B if U2 / U3 goes) and with R1 and U3 goes out - he would then go to 3B.

 

 

In CCA he does on the situation with R1, R2 and caught fly ball.  Are you sure it isn't the same in pro mechanics?  It was the last time I checked which I admit has been a while now because more people have CCA and we tend to use it even in non college games I do.

[noumpere]

CCA pages 199 (catch) and 200 (no catch) -- R1, R2, U3 goes out.

 

Just shows that it pays to pregame and know what you are using.  Which Im sure the guys in the clip did.