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Since Fed has not outlawed the fake to third rule, I’d like
to revisit the following pitcher’s movement while he’s on the rubber: 



R1 and R3. F1 sets and then steps toward 3B and feints a
throw. Then while keeping his pivot foot on the rubber, F1 pivots and steps
toward 1B and throws there.



Someone posted a nice comparison list of differences in Fed
vs. OBS and quoted rule 6-2-4-c for that move being legal, but I looked at that
rule and it doesn’t apply. Is this move legal and, if so, where is the proper rule
reference?

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It is legal for him to remain engaged as long as he throws. If he feints 3B, spins without disengaging and feints to 1B... Balk

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The rule is 6-2-4a.  Basically, F1 can't feint to 1B while in contact with the rubber.

 

(yes, edited!:))

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Pops,

 

It's Case Play 6.2.4C, not Rule 6-2-4c.

 

JM

Thanks. That makes sense now. How is it different in OBR?

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It is legal for him to remain engaged as long as he throws. If he feints 3B, spins without disengaging and feints to 1B... Balk

So if he does disengage, and he wishes to throw to 1B, the non-pivot foot has to move toward 1B from the place he stepped to feint to 3B, correct?

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Pops,

 

It's Case Play 6.2.4C, not Rule 6-2-4c.

 

JM

Thanks. That makes sense now. How is it different in OBR?

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OBR 2013 has: It is a balk when... "The pitcher, while touching his plate, feints a throw to first or third base and fails to

complete the throw."
 
As far as how he throws or steps after he disengages, I don't think it makes any difference. Does it?
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Pops,

 

Once he disengages during the legal feint to 3B, he has become an infielder, unbound by the pitching proscriptions - he can bend at the waist and throw it between his legs for all I care.

 

JM

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Had this happen in a varsity scrimmage over the weekend... Bases loaded, F1 feints to 3b, disengaging and picks off R2. OHC comes over to me "can he do that?" Me "why not, he disengaged" OHC " He can do that?" Me "once he disengages, he's like an infielder." OHC "oh" Larry Sansevere Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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The rule is 6-2-4a. Basically, F2 can't feint to 1B while in contact with the rubber.
why would f2 be on the rubber?
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The rule is 6-2-4a. Basically, F2 can't feint to 1B while in contact with the rubber.

why would f2 be on the rubber?

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:smachhead:

D-oh! Fixed. Kids runnin' around everywhere... 

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Pops,

 

Once he disengages during the legal feint to 3B, he has become an infielder, unbound by the pitching proscriptions - he can bend at the waist and throw it between his legs for all I care.

 

JM

That's right...I knew that but wasn't thinking. Thanks.


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