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OK, Second guessing has resulted in me posting this....

0 Out. Batting Order: Able, Baker, Charles, Daniel.

Able leads off and hits a triple. Then Charles bats instead of Baker. Charles hits a single to score Able. The play comes to a stop and the ball gets thrown into the pitcher. The pitcher steps on the mound and is taking the signals. The 2nd baseman yells to appeal that Charles batted out of order. Charles realizes he has batted in Baker's turn and doesn't want the run taken off the board so he starts running to second. The pitcher steps off legally but instead of appealing, he throws to the 2nd baseman who then tags out Charles. The defence still wants to appeal the batting out of turn in order to have Able sent back to third. The defense now appeals that Baker batter out of turn. After checking the line-up, the umpire calls Baker's spot in the line-up out for batting out of turn and Charles comes up to bat with Able at third and 1 out.

My thought is the BOO appeal was lost in making the play to put out Charles. There is still one out, but Daniels is now the proper batter. But I'm not 100%

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My thought is the BOO appeal was lost in making the play to put out Charles. There is still one out, but Daniels is now the proper batter. But I'm not 100%

I'm with you.

EDIT: Doesn't F4's statement that Charles batted out of order constitute an appeal? I don't see why it wouldn't. The rule (6.07(b )) says "the defensive team appeals", so I think you'd have an out on Baker, Able back to third and Charles at bat.

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I'm not so sure, since the play was initiated by the defense, not the offense.

That only matters in FED, and in this case, I think the play was initiated by the Offense, so the Defense could still appeal - in FED only.

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The appeal was made when F4 said appeal. Honor it. The pitcher stepped off legally. The other stuff doesn't matter because the appeal was made in time. Why is this damn editor adding underscores?

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I'm not so sure, since the play was initiated by the defense, not the offense.

That only matters in <acronym title='Federation Rules (High School)'>FED</acronym>, and in this case, I think the play was initiated by the Offense, so the Defense could still appeal - in <acronym title='Federation Rules (High School)'>FED</acronym> only.

Oops, that's what I meant, the appeal may still be in order since the play was initiated by the offense (FED as you state).

As a wise man once said, scratch that - reverse it.

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I'm not so sure, since the play was initiated by the defense, not the offense.

That only matters in <acronym title='Federation Rules (High School)'>FED</acronym>, and in this case, I think the play was initiated by the Offense, so the Defense could still appeal - in <acronym title='Federation Rules (High School)'>FED</acronym> only.

Oops, that's what I meant, the appeal may still be in order since the play was initiated by the offense (FED as you state).

As a wise man once said, scratch that - reverse it.

Don't confuse the BOO appeal with a "normal" baserunning error appeal. They're not the same thing.


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