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[Replacematt]

I understand he is protected during an IFR situation. I was asking about the rule which implies that he is not protected when there are 2 outs or when IFR is not in effect.

There is no rule with reference to the number of outs.

The rule with regard to IFR is an exception to the rule regarding being touched by a batted ball. So, the base rule (see above) states that a runner is out in this situation, except when in contact with his base on IFR.

Long and short, the rules you want are one and the same.

[johnnyg08]

I understand he is protected during an IFR situation. I was asking about the rule which implies that he is not protected when there are 2 outs or when IFR is not in effect.

With all due respect sir, did you even read my post? It really doesn't get much clearer. I know the myth about the base being a "safe haven" which is probably challenging what you've always believed. The base is not a safe haven for a runner on a batted ball in many cases.

[mstaylor]

The rule says the runner is out if he contacted by a batted ball, except for ... Standing on a base that is not an IFF is not one of them.

In the question it says in C. The ball is dead and the runner is called out. Everyone is trying to make this fit for a non IFF situation. With two outs you don't call time. It is three outs so there is no need to call time, therefore it is not an option. That is why A is the answer.

[Pops]

I understand he is protected during an IFR situation. I was asking about the rule which implies that he is not protected when there are 2 outs or when IFR is not in effect.

With all due respect sir, did you even read my post?  It really doesn't get much clearer.  I know the myth about the base being a "safe haven" which is probably challenging what you've always believed.  The base is not a safe haven for a runner on a batted ball in many cases.

Take it easy Johnny. No need to be so condescending. I did read your post, but you didn't address my question. However, Matt answered the question with style, and I thank him for his response.

[Rich Ives]

If there were two outs the runner would be going, not standing on 2B.

Rich, you are thinking like a coach again. As a coach told me a few years ago, he's an athlete not a scholar.

And johnnyg08 too. We get it.

Runners aren't that stupid. One with a brain cramp will have R1, coaches, teammates, and fans yelling "RUN" and he will.

[Replacematt]

Runners aren't that stupid.

I can say from experience that some are.

[johnnyg08]

I understand he is protected during an IFR situation. I was asking about the rule which implies that he is not protected when there are 2 outs or when IFR is not in effect.

With all due respect sir, did you even read my post? It really doesn't get much clearer. I know the myth about the base being a "safe haven" which is probably challenging what you've always believed. The base is not a safe haven for a runner on a batted ball in many cases.

Take it easy Johnny. No need to be so condescending. I did read your post, but you didn't address my question. However, Matt answered the question with style, and I thank him for his response.

Condescending no. But your response implied that you hadn't read the rule that I posted for you to figure it out on your own.

[johnnyg08]

He's protected because of the infield fly. If there were two outs the runner would be running on the swing, not standing on 2nd base.

The rule is under a "runner is out for..."

This question, while poorly written, implies an infield fly situation. Batter is out. Runner remains on 2nd base. In many other instances, the base is not a "safe haven" except in the case of an infield fly...and maybe one or two "through or by situations" and maybe some deflected ball scenarios. Think about the question you're asking, then it will make sense.

8-4-2k

k. is contacted by a fair batted ball before it touches an infielder, or after it passes any infielder, except the pitcher, and the umpire is convinced that another infielder has a play (5-1-1f, 6-1-5).

1. If a runner is touching his base when he is hit by an infield fly, he is not out, but the batter is out by the infield fly rule. The ball is dead, even in the exception.

I'm happy to help, but you'd learn more if you looked these up on your own.

I'm not sure how much nicer I could have been...everything you asked is written above. To call me condescending doesn't make sense. I don't know how much clearer it could be. Everything I typed above addressed IFF and not IFF...what else do you want to know? Some of you will be happy, but this is my last post on this topic. I typed the rule and you disagreed with me about the rule I provided for you.

[mstaylor]

Read post 28 and it shows why the question is clear.