Balk Plus

[MCLEOD36]

MS.

WE are saying the same thing...

[Bigdog]

Hey all,

In FED, "Time, that's a balk!!" Enforce the balk.

In OBR, let the play continue until it is over/ the ball is no longer live. This happens when the ball touches R2. Enforce in order:

1: BALK - runners did not advance at least one base, therefore Penalty for rule 8.05 is enforced.

8.05 PENALTY: The ball is dead, and each runner shall advance one base without liability to be put out, unless the batter reaches first on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batter, or otherwise, and all other runners advance at least one base, in which case the play proceeds without reference to the balk.

End of situation.

Bigdog:cool:

[mstaylor]

Hey all,

In FED, "Time, that's a balk!!" Enforce the balk.

In OBR, let the play continue until it is over/ the ball is no longer live. This happens when the ball touches R2. Enforce in order:

1: BALK - runners did not advance at least one base, therefore Penalty for rule 8.05 is enforced.

8.05 PENALTY: The ball is dead, and each runner shall advance one base without liability to be put out, unless the batter reaches first on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batter, or otherwise, and all other runners advance at least one base, in which case the play proceeds without reference to the balk.

End of situation.

Bigdog:cool:

So you just throw away the CI? The CI nullifies the balk, so it has to be considered.

[Bigdog]

Hey all,

You have to go through the progression of the call, with the balk taking priority over anything else because it happened first.

If it was a straight CI, yes, you award BR first base and advance all runners one base.

How does the CI nullify the balk?

Bigdog:cool:

Edited August 12, 2009 by Bigdog

[UmpTTS43]

"That's a balk"

Ball is pitched.

Batter swings, contact F2's glove and pops up the ball.

"That's interference."

"Infield Fly, batter's out"

Ball hits R2

"Time"

Playing action is dead once the batted ball hit R2.

Since BR is out for the IFF, you enforce CI which advances all runners including the BR. Balk is disregarded.

R3 scores, R2 to 3rd, R1 to 2nd, BR to 1st.

OM wants to disregard the CI and take the result of the play.

The result of the play, IFF, did not result in the BR and all other runners advancing one base, so the balk is enforced.

R3 scores, R2 to 3rd, R1 to 2nd, BR back to bat with pitch nullified.

Since the penalty of CI advances base runners including the BR, we disregard the balk. However, OM, by rule, has the option of CI or the result of the play. The result of the play is enforcing the balk as above.

If there had been R3 and R2 only, and not stealing on the pitch, and this same senario played out, we would have to enforce the balk from the start since the penaly for CI would have sent BR to 1st while keeping R3 and R2 at their bases. Since R3 and R2 did not advance due to the CI, by rule, we have to enforce the balk.

Many other posters have correctly given this senario.

[UmpTTS43]

Hey all,

You have to go through the progression of the call, with the balk taking priority over anything else because it happened first.

If it was a straight CI, yes, you award BR first base and advance all runners one base.

How does the CI nullify the balk?

Bigdog:cool:

A balk is disregarded if all runners including the BR advance one base. Since bases were loaded, the enforcement of the CI satisfies the criteria for disregarding the balk.

[mstaylor]

I agree with both of UmpTTS43's last two posts. It is possible that the coach would want the balk but I would think unlikely. Give him the option of advancing everyone and a new batter or the balk with the same batter at the plate. The balk is not an automatic though. If you follow strict pro mechanics you enforece the CI and make the OM iniate the balk option. In the levels we work we should give the OM both options.

[UmpTTS43]

In the levels we work we should give the OM both options.

I agree. In fact, I have been told, during college clinics, that we give the CI options to college coaches.