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  1. appeals are made live, and durring dead ball all the time, and in the play above could have claimed the other runner who i did not whisper to, didnt touch third. But as for dead for some live for others obviously not. You will not answer the question. So as I am going to continue to assume, if a game winning run comes in. (even though base runners have to continue their running responsibilities) the ball is dead.
  2. INT/OUT yes sorry I am breaking down just this subject. A baseball game is completed. But we all know the general rule, its not over until both umpires leave. So im elaborating on this grey area here. Where the PU says "GAME OVER". Is the ball dead at this time. I would assume so
  3. but PU said game over, ball is dead no? only appeals can happen. If it was live and intentionally touched he would be out not INT
  4. i did not tip the defense in game one, they picked up on that appeal on their own. "me saying kicking rocks" i, literally took 5 seconds to look at what the base runners did, and what his did, and BU came in running into the plate and were collecting drinks and items. Were were not literally kicking rocks and staying on the field. There is no rule that we have to leave the field immediately after the game is over and have to rush off. Game 2 was more of a no, no. But nobody had any clue, and thankfully I was right as no appeal was made or even though about, gave the runner a teachable moment and made him touch. The main QUESTION in this thread was touching that no batted ball, if that was any violation.
  5. I would never help the runner, but i can tell you, everybody thought the game was over except me. all infielders did not leave fair territory yet
  6. This was FED rules. I had this play happen already once in the regular high school season. Bases were loaded, 2 outs, base hit, BR goes to first, R3 on third comes home. All other runners , and players from bench come out on to field to celebrate. I kick rocks around as I know they celebrated prematurely as runners did not complete their running responsibilities as i was watching home and 3rd base, partner was watching 2nd for touches. It was a bit delayed, we started to walk off, and coach yells Mike throw it to 3rd base. I immediately signal OUT, and said RUN does not score. (the other team wins in the bottom of next inning)... crazy. Anyway, this weekend same play, but i was on base duties. The runner says to me i didnt even have to touch second base. I should have said nothing, but i told you him you go touch that base now, you can be out. But there was a twist this time and want to know what people think. 1) the PU called Game Over. 2) the baseball was thrown by the catcher to to the mound for some reason, and the runner touched the somewhat live ball? I then told him to go touch third. Was that ball still live? could I have called him out?
  7. I know, I would never say anything to a coach, player, fan or anything standing in B or C , when a very frustrated pitcher is not getting strikes. The situation was the game is a mens league that allows for up to 3 MiLB or higher players. Although none were present on either side of this game. I could see the pitchers frustration early, and what hes trying to say to me, but i do not respond, obviously. But, I could not see anything wrong with a good 5 pitches in the first 2 innings..i can see his argument but im not behind the plate, im not really seeing them. I could kind of see it coming, Was there something i could have done or say to my partner? Hey your squeezing them a little too much? No umpire wants to hear about his strike zone, let alone from another umpire. But i am his PARTNER. First altercation happens, PU asserts back to the pitcher, "There balls!, there balls! " . 2 innings go by, the pitcher starts saying things to the umpire, body language, and then, HERE WE GO throws the hat, says you suck, bang hes gone, they start to argue, im like ok, now i can do SOEMTHING, let me do my job now and take over. Not only do i have the pitcher to keep back , i have two others on the bench saying its not right. Im de-escalating like crazy, told partner to just stay over there and relax. anyway, in this Situation, would you want a base umpire to say, hey some of those are good and your too tight this is not MLB? and change your strike zone? I dont think I would want to hear it. Anything I could have done? or was this a fire i could not stop.
  8. whats preferable to call, the knee caps or the letters. cause i think you hear more about the high ones, then the 9 iron comment ATXBlue 's answer was helpful Should have made this a poll, sorry for confusion
  9. good luck calling a strike at the shoulders
  10. No EVERYONE is not complaining, But if i hear a somebody thinking i missed (not make one), a game or 2. Usually pitcher wanted just under the knee caps, and batters made at balls above the belly button at letters. Ill know most batters prefer the inside strike , then the outside strike. since i dont know the high, low statstic, asking wether the community likes to call the knee benders or the high hard strikes just below the letters
  11. Batter lays a long which began as a fair bunt in the grass, but was hooking and spinning and as the runner is in the running lane, the ball curves into his foot. The ball was not going to go back fair, but ya never know. Runners running into there own fair ball is an out. what about foul?
  12. FED book, armpits to knees and accordance to batters "natural stance" MLB we know is the belt to the knees. I get flack for not calling those 9 iron just a hair below the knee caps, and calling strikes that are at letters/above belly button. I have a great strike zone, but you always get those complainers, and everyone can miss a pitch in these areas. So I wish i could take a poll on this one A. Strike at bottom of knee caps! (i know the pitcher wants it, but that batter really would have to go down and get that one. B. Strike at the letters! (hitters shouldnt complain, these usually get hit allot with left up) C. BOTH
  13. A coach thinks you missed a call. We all know 2 man, especially with multiple runners and in far away positions at TOP. You have to make a call, and you saw him tagged out. Head first slide, I had him tagged in the shoulder at 3b. (where the base coach who was also right there is mad and asking) Do we have to answer where it was , especially when its not asked nicely? on opposite, on the safes, does it help to say nope "he got his arm to the bag first" out loud ? (pick off)
  14. I think the user has mobile typo markers. the question is: If he steps off (as a left handed pitcher with man on first ), if his foot is still in the air and either fakes or throws the throw or fent was before the foot hit the ground , it’s a balk correct? The answer by @noumpere and in practice is as long as the ball released and hes touching the ground, not the motion itself.
  15. I did need clarification again on another question which I thought we went over here. Its my fault for not watching all the footwork to be 100% certain as needed to at some point look at the tag and missed the first play (balk) which is the most important. anyway, pitcher claim he pump faked to second and stepped and then went to third. I did not see that , i confirmed with that what I explained on the miss to PU the same with the 3rd base coach as what the step balk was and overturned my out call to a balk, was indeed eventually correct. I then stated an inning or 2 later to PU that if he stepped to third that would not have been a balk, and he said it was and would be deceiving the runner. I said im pretty sure its not (as the thread was linked above talking about this)
  16. FED rules but would like to know if NCAA difference. R2 on 2B, 1 out. Im watching pitcher (not good enough though) but runner had a good jump, throw ends up at third. PU calls no balk. I call no balk and signal out. Coach is saying THAT IS A BALK. Now because i looked to fast to the base for the tag, i wasnt looking close enough. After the conference with plate , I explained the left hander, lifted his leg turned, but did not step towards second but spun past and stepped and through to 3rd. PU says well call balk then. After explaining to PU he says call balk and loud. Pitcher claims he was already planning a step fake to second and is yelling at me thats what he did. 1) no way he would have got him if he did. 2) it was all in one motion through like I explained. So 2 questions: 1) If he did in fact pump fake to 2nd, then it would not have been a balk? 2) I could have sworn we had a thread here about balks and throwing to unoccupied bases, and that it was legal if the runner is stealing. PU says no , thats always a balk even if stealing (obviously stepping off anything would be legal)
  17. Umpire942


    above i said the pitcher is off the mound, let alone plate
  18. Umpire942


    they dont have to call time, catcher can stay at home if runner goes. ump doesnt give time, wasnt asked, ball was handed to 3rd baseman, pitcher ties show, or grabs rossin, of the mound. No problem here , he out no?
  19. innings, so a 9 mens + 7 18u inning game in 90, both plate, my i kept up with pitches, but had a miss at the plate at catcher INF (possible) regardless is both plate, i do have days and weekends will I will have 18 on a sat and 18 on a sun. (not even talking about after hours during the week) looking for staying cool tips
  20. Not sure how i have made it though the years, but its really starting to get to me. I purchased a 200$ thin vest which is supposed to last 4 hours. How its going to fit under a WV is beyond me, but im giving anything a try. how to do 9 let alone 9+ on a 90+ day. + behind the plate. Are you just asking for health trouble, let alone a miss? What are the best tips, my problem is upper body and head heat, not really feat/legs
  21. I didnt say stay and a reach, i say 3 feet, step, or reach. I did want to bring up thoughts on game management but i was mobile and didnt want to ask to many question in thread, thanks for this input as well. This was not a restriction situation, as it would have put him actually closer to me , normally i would restrict coaches that are 1b or 3b coaches. But normally use this is regulation, county, state HS games. This was 17u travel, under FED. see these where tag was avoided, If i see a tag with the runner not doing anything, i could assume hes out of the baseline. Again, im solo here with no angle, take everything here with grain of salt
  22. right, thats the judgement part was it going to be a play there, did he not throw because a body in front of him and didnt want to knock him in the head, or pivots awkward to move around him, etc.
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