I don't have my rule book with me. Help. . . .

[RenoUmp]

I need to refresh myself on the penalty for throwing a fielded ball out of play . . .

Specifically, when bases are awarded on time of pitch and when for time of play/throw.

Think I booted one yesterday. Didn't cost anyone in the long run, but I still want to get it right.

[Mr Umpire]

TOP - When the first throw goes out of play by an infielder is made before BR reaches 1B. It doesn't matter what base it goes to, just that it is made before BR reaches 1B. If the throw is made by the pitcher while on the rubber such as pickoff attempt without stepping back first or a pitch.

TOT - If the first throw is made after BR gets to 1B. If the throw is the second(or third and so on) throw regardless if BR got to 1B such as a DP attempt. If the throw comes from an outfielder.

What was the situation?

[LMSANS]

I need to refresh myself on the penalty for throwing a fielded ball out of play . . .

Specifically, when bases are awarded on time of pitch and when for time of play/throw.

Think I booted one yesterday. Didn't cost anyone in the long run, but I still want to get it right.

:smachhead:I booted one a couple of weeks ago...here is the link from that thread...

http://www.umpire-empire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5555

[RenoUmp]

R1 and R2, BR bunts ball, play takes long time to develop, F1 fields and throws to F3 over his head and into DB. In PU's judgement, R1 had gained 2B prior to throw. BR gained 1B after throw.

Initially, PU awarded both R2 and R1 home as I was watching the BR and 1B and didn't have the exact location of R1 at the time of the throw; however, DC argued runner placement and TOP situation and we ended up awarding R1 3B. OC put up a counter-arguement, indicating that R1 had already gained 2B at the TOT, but we went with the TOP situation.

Initially, I was with the PU; however, as soon as coach said "TOP" we both recognized situation (evidently getting it right).

I felt then (as I do now) a bit like Homer Simpson. :wow:

Edited May 26, 2009 by RenoUmp

[Mr Umpire]

Then, you got it right regardless of how long it took to get there. Only bad thing, it appeared (although, not true) that the coach knew the rule better. Oh well, let them perceive what they want. The OM was wrong and the placement of the runners was correct.:wow: