Counting calls...

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A little bit of a tangent...

 

I understand having an "official" scorekeeper and running all the changes though him. Recording changes is one thing, but having the scorekeeper interject himself into the game, possibly giving one team an advanatge or puting the other at a disadvantage, by pointing out a possible rule infraction is something else altogether.

 

Aren't official scorekeepers supposed to be neutral third parties? Don't the rules say that batting order violations must be appealed by a team coach?

 

I'd be having a little talk with my scorekeepers to get that straightened out.

This should have already been talked about and the scorekeepers would have been told very emphatically that if they interjected anything (because this could give someone an advantage), they would be removed as a scorekeeper. Now, if the league wants them to mention something, it should be so all can hear and the coach be given a chance to put the correct batter up, and it should be brought up every time this happens. They would not be able to announce it for one side when it happens but suddenly fall asleep at the wheel and forget to announce for the other side. One way or the other.

 

 

The league is run that way that the statement that I bolded says. The scorekeeper acts as a check for the batting out of order as well as the pitch count for the pitchers that throw. That's just the way they chose to do it.

 

Unfortunately, since I do not write well, I see my statement makes it sound just like MST's comment below. The scorekeeper should announce so everyone has a chance to fix the problem but if they choose not to hear or if they choose to hear but not act oh well.

 

No, what I meant that line to say was------------does your league want both the scorekeeper and the umpire to stop the game and actually make the correct batter come to the plate before the game can resume. If that is how they want to handle it, which is entirely different than what MST pointed out, then you must have the umpire completely stop the game and force the correct batter, the one the scorekeeper says is correct, come up to bat. If there is a conflict, it must be fixed before the game continues, much like a protest that is handled on the premises by the TD before the game continues. If that is how the league wants it handled, that is what you should do. If the coach or correct player refuses to comply, you would now enforce any rules concerning, not following the umpires(i.e. League's ) orders, which could include ejecting the coach for failure to comply with the leagues mandates, if he continues to refuse to comply. Oh well. Do what you got to do.

 

Basically, it is either MST's way or the way I just mentioned and that is what you should do. Whichever way the League has decided, that is the way you must enforce and penalize for non-compliance the way the League wants it penalized.

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Unfortunately, since I do not write well, I see my statement makes it sound just like MST's comment below. The scorekeeper should announce so everyone has a chance to fix the problem but if they choose not to hear or if they choose to hear but not act oh well.

 

 

No, what I meant that line to say was------------does your league want both the scorekeeper and the umpire to stop the game and actually make the correct batter come to the plate before the game can resume. If that is how they want to handle it, which is entirely different than what MST pointed out, then you must have the umpire completely stop the game and force the correct batter, the one the scorekeeper says is correct, come up to bat. If there is a conflict, it must be fixed before the game continues, much like a protest that is handled on the premises by the TD before the game continues. If that is how the league wants it handled, that is what you should do. If the coach or correct player refuses to comply, you would now enforce any rules concerning, not following the umpires(i.e. League's ) orders, which could include ejecting the coach for failure to comply with the leagues mandates, if he continues to refuse to comply. Oh well. Do what you got to do.

 

Basically, it is either MST's way or the way I just mentioned and that is what you should do. Whichever way the League has decided, that is the way you must enforce and penalize for non-compliance the way the League wants it penalized.

 

 

I get what you were trying to say - it's run the way you just mentioned.