BobUmp

I tracked down the version with the tan TWs and the Spyder Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

@BT_Blue I think I tracked your rig down in the mask porn thread.. Thats a sweet looking mask! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Sweet, thanks for the info! Your explanation jibes with all the facts/clues.. I need to think hard if I want to use this as a main warm weather rig. It is so light, that Im afraid a higher velocity blow would fell this steel soldier.. My next project is bringing back to life the Bob Davidson pads.. The combo would make a sweet collectors item, BUT I like using my gear, not putting it on a shelf.. I would like to use it until I break or bend it, then clean it up/unbend and take it out of service. Thanks a lot for the info. Once I get the +POS leathers done, I will get them in the lineup occasionally.. And BTW, on recommendation from you@MadMax and others on this forum, I am currently training a Schutt XV and will change the harness, hopefully way before it gets warm up here in NY.. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

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I m hoping it keeps the heat off the bill and keep it from fading so quick Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

The finished product. Chose dark charcoal, in honor of pluspos... Here it is next to my all black FM25, to see the color difference And here it is, rigged up for warm weather, sun facing fields, and maximum protection with tan TWs from@Stk004, +POS harness and visor. Added a Mizuno TG, since its Mizuno-like It is unbelievably light. I will weigh it at work on Tuesday. I hope it survives! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

If it survives, great idea for when i send it to maskit.. I use danglers on my masks anyways! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Ok I burnt vinyl off with my propane torch. Quick and easy. Here it is after prepping and sanding.. I note two things of concern.. First, its hard to see, but on the lower outer right and lower outer left bars, just above the throat guard bars, there is some sort of splice.. weird, nowhere else, but definitely planned and NOT affected by the heating and burning.. Second again hard to see, but the throat guard is ever so slightly off kilter-the left outer bar of the throat guard slightly shorter than the right... I doubled checked and it is NOT bent.. My conclusion from the above is it is definitely not as good quality as the diamond AL frames. I am guessing it is a cheaper design, and it looks so mizuno 129 ish, I am guessing it is asian that copied that type of design. So my move is to not invest in a maskit makeover just yet. I painted it, and will run it out for a couple of months. If it survives a few good shots, awesome, I will spend a game fee for maskit, and be able to send my FM25 I picked up from[mention=4214]Stk004[/mention] to go navy for my school ball primary color. Tomorrow I will post the after photos when the paint is dry.. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

The pads need some restiching and some TLC. I like to think I'm a do-it-yourselfer and like that challenge.. The top pad's face with Bob Davidson's signature is in great shape, and the fact that I got all of that plus the pluspos harness, the TG, the visor and a mask bag for 20 bucks, I'm in the black even if the frame is not worth getting coated! If not, my plan B is to paint it Aged Bronze, which is black with a hint of bronze, and use it until i break it! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Now the comparison of joints.. first the pluspos And now the Diamond AL Looks like same type of welds, same jointing process. The eye bars on both frames are flattened, and feel solid on both. The pluspos rig's frame looks Mizuno-ish, so I am thinking Asian manufacturer? Did pluspos supply vinyl coated AL frames? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Here is my Diamond Ump-BL, upgraded with TW pads thanks to@Stk004 Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Ok got home at lunch.. First, as I received it, but after i picked at the flaking vinyl... Note that the sun shield by itself is worth about the same as what i paid for this rig.. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

I am at work, so I will post some tonight. I will try to pry some more vinyl off the bars and get a close up as well. I do know it has flat bars for the horizontal view bars, just like the diamond. It also "feels" like solid bars, not hollow, just like the diamond. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Hello Brothers, I bought a really old mask and pads because it had Bob Davidson's signature "NASCAR" style on the top pad, and I thought it would make a nice collectors item, and maybe even pull it out every once in awhile for an evening travel league game for fun... The vinyl coating is in bad shape, and planned to strip it and color it. I peeled off some around a weld and the weld looked like the welds on my diamond aluminum. I got a magnet, and sure enough, it is non magnetic.. it is also light enough, so if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..... Anyhow, does anyone know if this a +POS AL frame with vinyl coating on it, or if there is such an animal? Thanks in advance! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Three great transactions with@Stk004. Great prices, fast deliveries, and even cleaned and fixed stiches on a pair of TWs I bought before shipping. A class act... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk

Yup, Hu's on first... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk