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Situation:

Team is visitors

Starting Pitcher (Pitcher A) exits the game 2-2 in the eighth inning, leaving a runner on first base.

Reliever (Pitcher B) enters the game in the eighth inning and allows the inherited runner to score. [now losing 2-3 heading into the ninth inning]

Visiting team scores 2 runs in top of the ninth - Pitcher A now escapes with a no decision and Pitcher B is in line for the win.

Home team scores 2 runs in the bottom of the ninth and wins the game.

 

I'm aware Pitcher B will receive the loss, but does he also receive a blown save?  Everything I've read states he needs to enter the game in a save situation, keep in mind he was already in the game when it was tied, we he allowed the inherited runner to score, and when we took the lead. (alternatively, if he would have held them and we won 4-3, I don't believe he earns a save, correct??) THANKS!

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2 hours ago, Guest Coach CB said:

Situation:

Team is visitors

Starting Pitcher (Pitcher A) exits the game 2-2 in the eighth inning, leaving a runner on first base.

Reliever (Pitcher B) enters the game in the eighth inning and allows the inherited runner to score. [now losing 2-3 heading into the ninth inning]

Visiting team scores 2 runs in top of the ninth - Pitcher A now escapes with a no decision and Pitcher B is in line for the win.

Home team scores 2 runs in the bottom of the ninth and wins the game.

 

I'm aware Pitcher B will receive the loss, but does he also receive a blown save?  Everything I've read states he needs to enter the game in a save situation, keep in mind he was already in the game when it was tied, we he allowed the inherited runner to score, and when we took the lead. (alternatively, if he would have held them and we won 4-3, I don't believe he earns a save, correct??) THANKS!

No blown save for the reason you mentioned--it was not a save situation when he entered. 

Had that runner been the tying runner, and the home team ended up winning with everything else unchanged, he would get both the blown save and the loss.

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By definition it wasn’t a save opportunity (SVO) for your pitcher when he entered the game. Blown saves were introduced in 1988, but are not an officially recognized statistic although many sources keep track of them. That’s why blown saves are not mentioned in rule 9—The Official Scorer rule. Here’s the definition of blown save found at mlb.com--

Blown Save (BS)

Definition

A blown save occurs when a relief pitcher enters a game in a save situation, but allows the tying run to score. The run does not have to be charged to that pitcher. If a reliever enters with a man already on third base, and he allows that runner to score the tying run, he is charged with a blown save.

Although many blown saves occur in the ninth inning or later, they aren't limited to the ninth inning. If a pitcher enters in the eighth inning and surrenders the tying run in a save situation, he is given a blown save--regardless of whether he pitches the ninth. A pitcher can still receive either a win or a loss (or a no-decision) after recording a blown save, depending on the ensuing results.

Blown saves are used as a tool to evaluate the effectiveness of a closer. However, not all blown saves are created equal--after all, entering with a three-run lead in the ninth and entering with a one-run lead and a man on third in the eighth are both considered save situations. It's important to remember this when assessing closers based on their blown saves.

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