Catcher sets up outside.........

[Dbellyflop]

Had a game last weekend. 13U 50-70 field. HT F2 was setting up outside all game, and the pitchers were popping the glove, but obviously in the left hand batters box. I balled them all. when pitchers would "miss" and the catchers glove would come back in, i would strike it. just to be clear the pitches were over the left hand box line....(not strikes).

second inning i suggest that F2 set up a little closer to the plate....... he stayed out there..........

about the 5th inning after hearing the coaches get on the catcher for not framing the pitches properly, I asked him if he was getting in trouble. he said  he was. I said that they were not strikes.

he agreed, but said that the "coach", who was off the field keeping score, was their umpire all season and he called them strikes......

I got a little grief from that teams bleachers, but not one peep from the bench......

Seems like they taught them to throw to that one "umpire's" zone, but not to adjust to a different one. 

[webspinnre]

This is one of the things that drives me crazy recently. Catchers seem to be setting up outside more and more, the pitcher hits the glove, but it's outside. In my experience, the stands and dugout tends to get upset, as all they see is hitting the target and not the location. I mean, why not at least set up on the corner?

[UmpJeff]

Had a game last weekend. 13U 50-70 field. HT F2 was setting up outside all game, and the pitchers were popping the glove, but obviously in the left hand batters box. I balled them all. when pitchers would "miss" and the catchers glove would come back in, i would strike it. just to be clear the pitches were over the left hand box line....(not strikes).

second inning i suggest that F2 set up a little closer to the plate....... he stayed out there..........

about the 5th inning after hearing the coaches get on the catcher for not framing the pitches properly, I asked him if he was getting in trouble. he said  he was. I said that they were not strikes.

he agreed, but said that the "coach", who was off the field keeping score, was their umpire all season and he called them strikes......

I got a little grief from that teams bleachers, but not one peep from the bench......

Seems like they taught them to throw to that one "umpire's" zone, but not to adjust to a different one. 

​Track the pitch!  It doesn't matter where F2 sets up.  If the pitch crosses the plate in the strike zone (the strike zone you're calling...), it's a strike..  If it doesn't, it's a ball.  

when pitchers would "miss" and the catchers glove would come back in, i would strike it.  Are you calling pitches F2s yank strikes???

 

[scrounge]

Had a similar situation in my opening game this year, an ok JV game. Catcher set up way outside, pretty much midway in the other batters box. Not every time, but a lot. I didn't move from the slot of course - he was so far out there I couldn't reach out and touch him. And I did that a couple times, just as a subtle little visual 'hint'.

In the early innings, he had one of those 'don't move the glove and hit the spot' pitches, thigh high. Coach asked him (but really asking me) "Johnny, where was that?". The scorekeeper behind the backstop - who turned out to be the catcher's dad - yelled out "He's setting up so far outside, he'll never get that pitch".

Hero.

[basejester]

when pitchers would "miss" and the catchers glove would come back in, i would strike it.  Are you calling pitches F2s yank strikes???

He's saying the catcher had to reach into the strikezone to catch the pitch.  The catcher's mitt is moving before the ball is caught.  This looks like a ball ​to the mitt-watchers in the stands.

[UmpJeff]

He's saying the catcher had to reach into the strikezone to catch the pitch.  The catcher's mitt is moving before the ball is caught.  This looks like a ball ​to the mitt-watchers in the stands.

​"when pitchers would "miss" and the catchers glove would come back in, i would strike it. just to be clear the pitches were over the left hand box line....(not strikes)."

This is why I asked if he was calling yanked pitches strikes^^^

 

[basejester]

I think from the rest of the context that the pitches thrown into the left-hand batter's box are the ones he was calling balls.  Those last two sentences would be clearer reversed.   

[Dbellyflop]

@base-jester figured out my 2:30 in the morning ramblings. F2 would set up outside and the pitch would come over the left hand batters box, I would call ball. If F1 missed the "target" and the ball was over the plate where F2 had to move his glove back in to catch it, I called strikes. I just thought it was funny that the catcher never set up further in. And the coaches taught the kids to pitch to his zone and not the zone I was calling. The coaches never had him set up further in, just got on him for not framing the pitch right. F2 was catching and framing the pitch just fine, it just wasn't a strike. 

[KenBAZ]

Are you sure the coach knew where his catcher was setting up? You just can't tell from the dugout where a pic or a catcher is relative to in and out. Maybe coach thought his catcher was setting up with his left leg behind the point of the plate when F2 was really setting up with his left leg behind the outside corner. Maybe they were just trying to get you to call strikes on pitches off the plate. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

[KenBAZ]

Are you sure the coach knew where his catcher was setting up? You just can't tell from the dugout where a pitch or a catcher is relative to in and out. Maybe coach thought his catcher was setting up with his left leg behind the point of the plate when F2 was really setting up with his left leg behind the outside corner. Maybe they were just trying to get you to call strikes on pitches off the plate. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

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