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Balk Hater

Balk Hater

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I had a u 10 game almost a week ago and had a coach you know the guy I know the rules I have umpired 18 years. In a nutshell it was a league rule play at the plate slide or a he avoid and his runner crashes into the catcher and hits the ground and the ball comes loose. The kid is one the ground in serious pain and the rat comes at me in a vicious manner and argues for about a minute about the out or safe call. I hear a parent tell the coach why don't you check the kid he at this point quit barking at me and bent down to help the kid off the field and a trip to the ER. I overheard his parents ripping the rat for caring about a Ffing run and not about their kid. My reason for not running this guy I felt it would be a mess of trouble bitching and whining all the way to the parking lot. Oh by the way he shut his rat hole the rest of the game. He told my boss the next day he would have tossed himself. I learned my lesson I will take your guys advice and pop my EJ cherry next time this happens

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yawetag

yawetag

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the rat comes at me in a vicious manner

Whoosh!

Not that it matters, but how old are you?

Mr Umpire

Mr Umpire

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It depends on the situation for me. If I felt the EJ might distract him even more from the kid, then no. I would want him to focus on the kid. If I felt I could get his attention and then tell him to tend to the kid, then I would.

I'm just curious why you considered ejecting him. I don't know if there is enough info here to warrant an automatic EJ from any poster not there. Just b/c he ignored his player isn't grounds for an EJ. That is his prerogative. May not like it but not worth an EJ to me.

I just don't read enough into this to warrant an EJ. Maybe, the "vicious manner" warranted it but again, it depends on if I think I would be able to get his focus on the kid with it or not.

Mike Prince

Mike Prince

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Agree it is a HTBT situation, only question is why did you let a discussion about a judgement call (out or safe) last that long? As soon as you tell him what you had you should end the conversation.

Based on what I read in the OP, I would not have EJ the coach unless something happened during the 1 minute conversation to warrant it. If he called time and was out there properly, the choice to ignore his injured player is his to make.

Balk Hater

Balk Hater

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Agree it is a HTBT situation, only question is why did you let a discussion about a judgement call (out or safe) last that long? As soon as you tell him what you had you should end the conversation.

Based on what I read in the OP, I would not have EJ the coach unless something happened during the 1 minute conversation to warrant it. If he called time and was out there properly, the choice to ignore his injured player is his to make.

he was A rat jack ass leading up to this but i have learned on UE last resort to EJ

PeteBooth

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I had a u 10 game almost a week ago and had a coach you know the guy I know the rules I have umpired 18 years. In a nutshell it was a league rule play at the plate slide or a he avoid and his runner crashes into the catcher and hits the ground and the ball comes loose.

What call did you make?

It sounds like F2 had the ball and then the runner crashed F2.

At that point the call is

1. TIME

2. That's interference

3. The runner is declared out.

The kid is one the ground in serious pain and the rat comes at me in a vicious manner and argues for about a minute about the out or safe call.

What do you mean "Vicious manner"

Also, did you in fact make a call?

This is a 10U game so when I see the coach coming out I would simply tell him to attend to the injured player.

If he still "started" after attending to the player then it's by by time.

All in all your OP is difficult to answer because we do not have all the facts.

1. Did you make a call to begin with (it's unclear from your OP)

2. Exactly what did the coach do that was "vicious"

Pete Booth

Dragon29

Dragon29

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balkhater,

I agree w/Pete on this one and, not to pile on here, but it would also be very helpful when you're relating information to use more punctuation.

Your OP was very hard to follow, making it more difficult for any of us to try & comment on it.

Just my :censored:

yawetag

yawetag

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I just don't read enough into this to warrant an EJ. Maybe, the "vicious manner" warranted it but again, it depends on if I think I would be able to get his focus on the kid with it or not.

This. In my definition of "vicious," a coach isn't around too long. As far as tending to the player, I'll let him after the ejection -- once the player's off the field, though, the coach is at the parking lot.

moblue

moblue

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If a coach wants to argue with me while there is an injured kid laying on the ground in pain he may get a warning to tend to the player first, but refusing to instantly comply will earn him a :P. I'll let his AC(s) take care of the injured player since he obviously doesn't care as it is.

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