Little League pitch count rules

[Guest McMike]

Hello.  Regarding pitch count.

I understand on the "hard limits" (pitcher/catcher, daily max), that if a pitcher starts a batter under the threshold, and crosses it during that at-bat, he can finish the batter and still be considered not exceeding the limit.

I am confused on the "tiered limit" (days' rest).  If a pitcher starts a batter in the middle of one tier, and crosses into the next higher tier while pitching to his final batter, which tier does he end at for the day?  Another way of saying this would be: the pitcher's days' rest tier is the tier he is at when he begins his last batter for the day?

The official pitch count, in either case, is however many pitches he actually threw, regardless of what the threshold and rest calculations end up to be though, right?

Thanks

[Velho]

8 minutes ago, Guest McMike said:

the pitcher's days' rest tier is the tier he is at when he begins his last batter for the day?

The count of the first pitch to the batter is used for rest tier determination, i.e. if pitcher finishes batter1 at 19, they can pitch to batter2 and still be considered as not exceeding 20 pitches for the day. See LL rulebook Regulation VI (c) and (d) for the rule.

9 minutes ago, Guest McMike said:

The official pitch count, in either case, is however many pitches he actually threw

I suppose so for the "official box score" and Grandma's bragging rights of a 68 pitch complete game that was considered as a 65 tier needign 3 days of rest.

[Guest McMike]

29 minutes ago, Velho said:

 

I suppose so for the "official box score" and Grandma's bragging rights of a 68 pitch complete game that was considered as a 65 tier needign 3 days of rest.

It matters because if you fill out a pitcher eligibility affidavit, you need to write down the number of pitches thrown.  I assume you use the real number there.  Then in the "eligible to pitch on date" field you write the answer from the calculated tier he ended on.

[Guest McMike]

39 minutes ago, Velho said:

 

39 minutes ago, Velho said:

The count of the first pitch to the batter is used for rest tier determination, i.e. if pitcher finishes batter1 at 19, they can pitch to batter2 and still be considered as not exceeding 20 pitches for the day. See LL rulebook Regulation VI (c) and (d) for the rule.

 

39 minutes ago, Velho said:

 

Thanks.  There it is, right there in VI(d) Note 2, underlined in red! lol.  Thank

[Velho]

31 minutes ago, Guest McMike said:

It matters because if you fill out a pitcher eligibility affidavit, you need to write down the number of pitches thrown.  I assume you use the real number there.  Then in the "eligible to pitch on date" field you write the answer from the calculated tier he ended on.

Good to know. I've never been a Tournament Director (and was not Manager when I coached post season).

You're doing this during the regular season? Where are you located?

[Guest McMike]

33 minutes ago, Velho said:

Good to know. I've never been a Tournament Director (and was not Manager when I coached post season).

You're doing this during the regular season? Where are you located?

1 hour ago, Velho said:

 

1 hour ago, Velho said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Velho said:

 

No, not for the regular season.  I just wanted to learn the rule all the way through.