Jessebleu

BR misses first base and eventually is obstructed (in a rundown between third and home) as he is attempting to return to third base. The umpire correctly calls time and awards him home plate. Prior to touching home, the BR legally returns and touches first base. What now is his award? (Home or Second). OBR 6.01(h)(1)

ForceOut/Order of Appeals (OBR) I would like to know if I understand the topic of order of appeals/force out after following the threads in the recent past regarding this topic. I have provided the following example along with my understanding of the correct answer. I hope that members will respond to confirm whether or not my understanding is correct. Loaded bases one out. On bloop hit to right field, R3 scores, R1 advances to second base. The BR rounds first (missing the bag). The first baseman takes a throw from right field and steps on first base, appealing to the umpire before the BR can get back to first (now two out). R2, who went halfway on the bloop hit, misses third base (BEFORE the appealed out at first base)and then advances to home plate. The first baseman now throws to third and R2 is called out on appeal (now 3 outs). My understanding is that since this inning ended on two appeals equaling exactly 3 outs, the order of these appeals should matter, and therefore R3 legally scores a run. To me this means that the appealed out at first base (for the second out) removed the force on a preceding runner, therefore the third out appeal (at third base) on R2 is not a force, allowing R3 to score a run. I also recall reading in an earlier post that Rich Marazzi explained that the defense did not keep the “force alive” because of the order that the defense appealed in a similar baserunning situation. Also, in my attempt to find a rule in OBR that would support this concept of order of appeals, I was only able to find a rule that was also mentioned somewhere in these discussions in the past. That particular rule, 5.09(b)(6), has a sentence in it that says “ if a following runner is put out on a force play, the force is removed”. This seems to me to be the one statement that supports this whole idea of the order of appeals mattering, which then makes the moment that a base is missed irrelevant if indeed a following runner is retired on a force out.(via regular action, continuos action appeal or an appeal completed after the ball is put back in play). I am looking forward to responses from the membership regarding my understanding of this entire topic. Thanks to all!

OBR-If a fielder INTENTIONALLY DROPS A DECLARED INFIELD FLY, besides the ball remaining alive, do runners have to “tag up” to avoid being out on appeal?

OBR. Batter is interfered on the swing (by the catcher) but hits a slow roller in front of the plate . The batter- runner is now called for runner’s lane interference on the throw to first base. What is the correct ruling?

What is the correct OBR ruling for the following play? Runners on first and third, two outs. On a base hit to left field the runner from third scores easily. Now the runner from first heads for third as the batter-runner misses first, goes about halfway to second, then starts back slowly toward first base. Now immediately after the runner(from first) is tagged out at third (for the third out), the ball is thrown to the first baseman who has been yelling for the ball all along because he saw the batter- runner miss first base. The batter- runner arrives back on first base a “split second” before the first baseman catches the ball (on the bag) and appeals to the umpire that he missed the base. Ruling?

I have listened long enough TomUIC and Senor Azul are definitely correct in their interpretation. The following play illustrates this. Play: Does the run count? R1 and R3, 1 out. Line drive to RF, fielder makes play cleanly on one hop. R1,after touching 2nd heads back toward 1st thinking the ball was caught. By the time the ball is thrown to 1st to retire the BR (who didn’t hustle) R1 has turned around and again advanced past 2nd (while failing to touch the base) and is safe at 3rd, while R3 has long crossed the plate. R1 is now called out on appeal for missing 2nd base for the third out. OBR 5.09(b)(6) CLEARLY STATES THAT IF A FOLLOWING RUNNER IS RETIRED ON A FORCE PLAY THE FORCE IS REMOVED. Hence, when the appeal is sustained, R1 is now called out (not a force out) AND R3 scores a run. NOTE: Had the BR somehow been retired after touching 1st base (WITH R1 ALREADY BEYOND 2nd BASE), THEN THE APPEALED OUT ON R1 WOULD BE A FORCE OUT BECAUSE A FOLLOWING RUNNER WAS “NOT RETIRED ON A FORCE OUT” AND THEREFORE NO RUN WOULD SCORE. THIS IS THE CORRECT APPLICATION OF 5.09(b)(6) and the rule itself (though maybe not intended) actually relieves the umpires of the “burden” of having to know the EXACT LOCATION of each runner when a force out and a separate base-running infraction occur during the same play.