Thanks for the reply. I agree
After I posted, I called a friend of mine that used to umpire high school and Junior college and some D1 college games
He said that once the catcher left the catchers box to chase the ball, all bets were off and it become a normal play with the catcher, having no special rights since he is no longer throwing from the catchers box through an occupied batters box
He has seen the events I described before, but he’d never seen any umpire make that call because the runner is entitled to the baseline as long as he is just running to first
I spoke to the home plate empire after the game & he first told me that the catcher has the right to throw unimpeded to a base.
So I asked him what if the ball rolled far enough that the first basement picked it up and tried to throw to third, would he make the same call? He said “no, because he’s not the catcher.”
So I asked him how far the catcher can run out of the catchers box before his throw becomes a normal throw, and he paused and said “you may be right, I’m gonna have to do some thinking on that play. I’ve never seen it.
He also said that the catcher, being that he is a catcher has the right to have a clear throw to any base, regardless of whether he is in the catchers box or not.
I told them that he may want to think on that one also, because I have coached for well over 20 years and even done some umpiring and I’ve never heard it said where the catcher has special throwing privileges even if a ball is bunted in front of home plate.
We told each other to have a good day and we left it at that 😁
Another thought, a friend of mine umpired for many years and he told me one time that if you see something on a baseball field that you’ve never seen before, don’t make a call because you’re probably gonna make the wrong call 😁