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Yes, OBR rules. The batter might have hit the ball twice on one swing. The ball did not bounce and he did not let go of bat. Only the sound where it sounded like the ping of the bat twice. I asked the tournament director and other umpires after the game and got many answers. I had them tell me live ball, foul ball and batter is out. I have this team again tomorrow in bracket play and want to have the correct answer for the coach if he asks. I also looked online and there were many instances of MLB players doing this and they were given base hits or live balls based on umpires interpretation on whether the double hit was intentional or not.
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12 year old boys baseball - USSSA - Batter swings at a pitch and hits ground ball the 3rd base. 3rd baseman throws him out at first. I'm the field umpire. The head coach for the team that just hit the baseball said you could hear the sound of the baseball hitting the bat twice. I heard the same thing but wasn't sure what happened. After discussing with the plate umpire, we let the play stand as a ground out to third. If the bat did contact the baseball twice in one swing while the batter was in the box, what would the proper call be? Play on, since accidental, foul and dead ball? I've tried looking up in the rule book but couldn't find a definitive answer.
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USSSA - 14's - On a tag play, if while applying a tag and the ball pops out of the fielders glove, is the runner still out if the fielder recatches the ball before it hits the ground. I saw this happen last week and the umpire for that game said that as long as the fielder regains control of the ball before it hits the ground the runner is still out regardless if he is tagged again or not. I would have said the fielder did not have control of the ball, so runner is safe. What is the rule on that?
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Baseball USSSA Rules - If a batted ball ricochets off a base and it hits a baserunner in fair territory is runner out even if he would not have been hit without the ricochet?
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12 year old USSSA Baseball Rules. Runner on 3rd base with 1 out. Runner heads home on a passed ball. Catcher grabs that ball and flips towards home without looking. As runner is crossing the plate the ball hits the batter who was about 6 or 7 feet up the 3rd base line and about 3 feet behind it. Is this an automatic out on the runner or a no call since the runner was going to be safe anyway.
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Is OBR and FED different when it comes to this rule?
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Pitcher in the stretch position is in the process of coming set. Once the ball and hands come together this pitcher has all kinds of movement before he finally comes to a complete pause. Question is, in the process of all the movement before coming to the actual pause, if one of the movements is turning his left shoulder towards first base is this a balk? Even if he hasn't stopped movement to become set yet? I had this happen in a game. I wasn't sure so I didn't call it a balk and nobody complained. It was a right handed pitcher and he didn't do it every time. He moved all over the place every time before the final pause but turning his left shoulder to first base wasn't done every time. After game I asked other umpires and half of them said they would call it a balk and the other half would not. I want to get this correct next time and I know I can get the correct answer on this forum.
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USSSA rules ages 9 - 14. When the catcher misses or drops 3rd strike, when is the batter/runner declared out if he doesn't run to 1st base right away? I see this a lot and it's more of an issue when the batters team is in the 3rd base dugout. I've asked many other umpires and they all seem to have a different opinion. In MLB I've read the batter pretty much has the entire circle around home plate as that boundry. I've had some umpires tell me if they take one step towards the 3rd base dugout they are giving their self up. That doesn't seem fair because if their dugout is on 1st base side it would be harder to tell if they were giving their self up. I don't know if it should be as much lead way as MLB but what is the general rule. I like to give them 4 to 5 steps towards the dugout before declaring them out.
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Balk Call for not coming set but the pitcher delivers the baseball
LDS replied to LDS's question in Ask the Umpire
Thank you. That makes perfect sense! -
Balk Call for not coming set but the pitcher delivers the baseball
LDS posted a question in Ask the Umpire
When calling a balk on a pitcher that doesn't come set, 80% of the time the pitcher delivers the pitch anyway. When that happens, I know it's a live ball if the batter hits the pitch and the offense gets to choose if it is balk or not based on the outcome of the play. If the batter doesn't swing or swings and misses what is the call? I've heard that it is a ball regardless, I've heard it's only a ball if it's ball four otherwise count remains the same and I've also heard it is nothing, count remains the same. It is USSSA baseball rules. Can someone help clarify this for me? -
USSSA and OBR rules is what the league and tournaments I umpire use. Thank you for all the helpful information.
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Not trying to be difficult. Just trying to understand. That’s why I love this forum.
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Umpiring for 6 years and still learn something new almost every tournament. Interesting that Major League Umpire says that within the box means that if any part of your foot is in the box that means within the box. See video.
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Had a question come up regarding batters box. Is it true that as long as both feet are touching a portion of the batters box that batter is considered within the batters box? If this is true couldn’t you technically be stepping on the plate and it be considered within the box as long as heal is touching batters box line?
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Tournament started Thursday so there were 4 games per day and 5 on Sunday. Thank you for all the great advice!
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Umpired 17 games in state tournament over the weekend. It was class A ball which is basically recreational baseball maybe a little better. Out of 17 games I had several 50/50 calls and probably did miss 2 or 3 calls. 1 call for sure because after the game I asked the 1st baseman on a pickoff move did he get the tag down in time? He said that the kid might have barely got his hand back to the base before the tag but it was very close. From my angle in B slot he definitely looked out. The age group I was doing was 12 and 13's. Sunday was bracket play and it was very hot out so peoples emotions were running high. I have very thick skin and usually can brush aside comments. I've only had to throw out 2 people in 8 years. However, this time the way the coaches and fans acted on a couple of calls really took all the fun out of umpiring and really made me question my confidence and made me wonder if it was worth it to keep umpiring. My question is this. If I missed 2 or 3 calls throughout 17 games is this average umpiring, good umpiring or bad umpiring? My last game (game 17) was the championship game for 13 year olds. Got a lot of compliments on the consistency of my strike zone and how I ran the game. It was a nice compliment when I was feeling down from the other calls I might have missed in the tournament. I really love the game of baseball and strive to be perfect. A missed call really gets to me and I will dwell on it for days. I don't need the money but love doing it for the kids and to be around the game. What motivates you to keep going after a tournament or a few games has you questioning your confidence?
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On throws to 1st base what exactly constitutes obstruction on 1st baseman covering the bag? I've seen time and time again the 1st baseman on a routine ground ball take the throw with his foot at the back of the base. I can somewhat understand at 9 and 10 years old but I'm seeing this all the way up to high school age. They are not giving the runner much room if any to cross the base. Also had a 3rd strike passed ball where 1st baseman stood right on the baseline and stretched to take the catchers throw not leaving runner any base to touch. When discussing with other umpires it seems like the answer is always well the runner needs to run through the first baseman? Can obstruction be called and if so is it a judgement call on how much of the base 1st base was blocking or is it true runner should just run through him? That just doesn't sound right to me. A lot of the time I can see the runner slowing down trying to figure out how to touch base without causing a collision. Seems to me that should be obstruction if they feel the need to alter what they are doing bases on where 1st baseman is standing. This is not the train wreck play where ball and runner arrive at the same time and the throw takes the 1st baseman into the runner. This is just not playing first base the right way or in the case of the 9 and 10 year olds it is being clumsy, awkward and still learning the game. Also, on a pick off move at any base, can fielder be pretty much blocking bag giving runner nowhere to get back or would that also be obstruction? Where I umpire I rarely see any calls on these type of plays. I think a lot of times it is obstruction but the umpires don't want to cause controversy. Now they have me confused with what I thought I already knew.
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Does 3rd baseman or 1st baseman have to be holding on runners on a pick off move where pitcher does not step off the rubber? Went over this at a game last night and it was 50/50 what other umpires believe. My interpretation of the rule is that it is a balk if the pitcher attempts a pick off and throws to fielder even though the fielder is not at the base holding the runner on. Appreciate any input.
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Thank you. Very helpful.
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Head Coach for defensive team agreed with the INT call but did not agree with not calling anyone out. He went to the Tournament Director.
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Yes, R3 scored before the INT.
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2 questions using USSSA rules. Age 13 and 14. 1) Team batting has runner on 3rd with 2 outs. Ground ball to shortstop, he fields the ball and throws a one hopper to 1st base, trying to scoop the throw at 1st the ball gets by 1st baseman and starts heading towards 1st base dugout. The team batting occupies that dugout and the on deck batter intentionally stops the ball with his foot. I called interference and allowed the run to score and called the runner at 1st base safe and kept him at first since he didn't try to advance. Since stopping the ball was to the defenses advantage I didn't call anyone out. Was that the right call? Tournament director overruled my call and called the batter runner going to first out. 2) Balk on pickup off move question. Right hander is engaged on the rubber. If he turns to throw to 1st without stepping off the back of the rubber is it a balk if he faints the throw? What else could make that a balk? I thought I understood that rule but UIC and Tournament director told me that you don't have to necessarily step of the back of the rubber. That lifting you toe, lifting you heal or doing the jump move when going to first is considered stepping off the rubber. Now I'm totally confused. Can some please help enlighten me?
