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  1. So I guess our fault was appealing before the ball went live? What makes the ball live? Next pitch? Time called? Not sure on that. Because of our early appeal, the runner went back to first and only because of our appeal.
  2. @Tborze 50/50 between a few parents involved heavily in the league and fellow coaches. Haven't really polled the other umps. From what I gathered from all the comments here, the runner should have touched first and then been awarded 3rd. It seems as though since he didn't and we contested it, he should have been called out but we let him just return to first.
  3. Thanks for all the feedback. This is still a big discussion at the Little League fields and is about 50/50 there. Yes, @yawetageverything you said minus #7 was correct. He was on 3rd and we said he never touched the bag at first so the ump sent him back to first permanently. Seems like most think he should have touched first after the ball went out of play on his own accord or his coaches instruction, not rather by the ump or opposing team sending him back. Thanks all!!!
  4. @Richvee Yes, that's my point. The runner never returned to first. It was only after we contested it, which at that point should have been called out I guess because the other team was going to leave him at third, that he was sent back to first because we thought that was the right call. Small technicality I guess.. Oh well, it's Little League. On to life!!!! Thanks for all your inputs. Much appreciated.
  5. Rich, I understand that the runner does not need to tag up until the ball is caught, but based on Senor Azul's post, "If a runner is forced to return to a base after a catch, he/she must retouch his/her original base even though...." In our case, the runner started to head back to first but the ball was overthrown out of play with the runner never having touched first. I didn't expect the tag up to happen before the overthrow. The overthrow happened while the runner was headed back to first but never got there. He got about 2/3's of the way back to first and then the first base coach sent him to second after the overthrow. The head coach argued that it was an overthrow and should be two bases. We argued he never touched or tagged up at first to warrant the awarded bases.
  6. Thank you. The runner never touched first but simply stopped mid-way between first and second as the ball was overthrown. His coach claimed the overthrow meant 3rd base was awarded. The runner only touched first base when the ump called the runner back to first. My whole argument was the runner never tagged up on the caught ball. I felt he should have returned to first and then when the overthrow happened been awarded 3rd base. Thanks!!
  7. Hi there, new to the forums. Stumbled upon it by trying to research a recent Little League situation that no one felt 100% about. The situation is a runner on first, batter hits a line drive to shortstop, he catches it, the runner takes off from first unaware of the catch, shortstop attempts to throw back to first but overthrows out of play into the dugout. One coach says 2 bases on an overthrow and the runner should be on third. Opposing coach says runner never tagged up so should stay on first. Ultimately the ump said runner should stay on first. Curious what everyone's thoughts are on this play. Thanks!!
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