maroonump

so... there is not a forced 3rd out, but the BR never occupies 1st base, so the run doesn't count???? Sorry, your post makes it sound like you agree with the call on the field. I just want to make sure I understand.

So, you agree with my call that the run doesn't count. This was a game that I was not officiating (a coach called me for a ruling). The call on the field was that the run counts as a passed ball negates the force. The ruling was in my friends favor (the scorebooks didn't match at the end of the game as he didn't count the run) and didn't change the outcome of the game. The call was backed up by a High School coach (kid was on the team) and said the same situation came up during his season with the same ruling. It still seems wrong to me.

Here's the situation...2 out, runner on third. Batter swings and misses at what turns out to be a passed ball. The batter/runner is thrown out at 1st, but after the runner on third scores. Does the run count, or is this ruled a force play at first that kills the run?

Thanks. That is the call that I made, but the coach I ruled against was very convincing that it was a tag/timing play. I just wanted to be sure.

Here's the situation... 2 outs and he bases loaded. The batter hits a ground ball to second base. The second baseman fields the ball and tags the runner as he passes. Before the tag is made the runner on third scores. Does the run count? Why or why not. I've discussed this with several people and have an equal number that think the run counts as do not. Help!