Ump-54 10 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Where does a umpire cross the line @ the plate meeting regarding ethics and golden rules? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrianC14 426 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Where does a umpire cross the line @ the plate meeting regarding ethics and golden rules? I'm not sure I understand the question.... are you saying (or asking) if it's appropriate to bring up / discuss ethics and the golden rule at the plate meeting? Edited May 12, 2009 by BrianC14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCLEOD36 10 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I have always liked this set of guidelines, from NASOGuidelines for Officials.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Umpire 118 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Well, hitting a coach for something he says might cross the line. I'll have to ask him after he gets up though. Ethics? What are those? Golden rules? Don't apply to baseball.:smachhead: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ump-54 10 Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 No.. my sons LL manager was umpiring a LL JR tounry.. and the manager for one of the teams is my sons Travel ball Manager / Intructor.. the Umpire supposally brought up my sons name to the travel ball manger and had bad things to say about my son. the travel ball manager had to defened my son. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Umpire 118 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Why is the umpire talking to a coach about anything other than ground rules for the game? He should not be discussing his opinions of anyone or anything with the coach. This plate meeting went on way too long if he is talking about individual players. And, even longer if he is discussing ability. I cannot stand a long plate meeting. Stick with the rules for the game. Not opinions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrianC14 426 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 No.. my sons LL manager was umpiring a LL JR tounry.. and the manager for one of the teams is my sons Travel ball Manager / Intructor.. the Umpire supposally brought up my sons name to the travel ball manger and had bad things to say about my son. the travel ball manager had to defened my son. This took place at the plate conference?!? :smachhead: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstaylor 1,512 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 It is absolutely over the top. An umpire should never say anything about a player, coach or another umpire crew. If a manager tries to have the same conversation, that needs to be shut down. The plate meetings should cover line-ups, ground rules, time limits and whether the players are properly equiped. Anything else is out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umpire in Chief 1,651 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Plate meeting is short and sweet, say as little as possible shift liability from you to the coaches and be gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stan W. 634 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Where does a umpire cross the line @ the plate meeting regarding ethics and golden rules? I get where you are heading.... If you are going over more than the line up cards, ground rules and sportsmanship, you could be going over the line...shorter is better....but that isnt an ethics violation....just bad form... But I did have one like you: I was waiting at the plate meeting for the visiting manager when my senior partner begins to tell the home manager that he should not have any problem beating the visitors since that were out of pitching and to watch out for a squeeze every time they had a runner on third.... After the plate meeting broke up I asked the senior partner when he was going to give the visitors the scouting report on the home team???? thats crossing the line..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dawg-man 10 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 That is way over the line. Lineups, ground rules and are your players legally and properly equipped is a good plate meeting. Preaching to coaches about sportsmanship, jewelry, etc will only get the game going on the wrong foot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Umpire in Chief 1,651 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 One thing I hate is when my partner brings up the past at the plate meetings. It's gone let go of it; it's a new game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blindumpire99 11 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I had a partner once that held both managers up after my plate meeting and proceeded to tell them a joke that, "you've just got to hear this one boys!" was his exact words. He began rattling it off and my blood starting boiling as it quickly became a trashy bathroom dirty joke. I was PO'ed first of all because he just had to tell his joke instead of being professional and let's play ball. When he got done with the punch line, he was the only one laughing--was him as both coaches just looked at me as if to say:WTF. Needless to say, I put it all in my game report and marked the clown off for the future. Nothing wrong with being friendly, but keep it professional.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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