BLWizzRanger Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 Does anyone know why the second base bag is not placed entirely inside of the diamond (square) like the other bases? I can only think that it aligns better when a runner is rounding second on first-to-third or a triple. I need to get some sleep tonight....
noumpere Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 second base is where it belongs. First and third were moved. (And, the "base" is the poiint on the ground at the 90' corners. The "bag" sits above (in some form) of the "base.") 1
Coach Carl Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 In the beginning, all the bases were centered on the points of the diamond. First and third were moved to make it easier to determine fair/foul. https://sabr.org/journal/article/the-evolution-of-the-baseball-diamond-perfection-came-slowly/ 3
Richvee Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Coach Carl said: In the beginning, all the bases were centered on the points of the diamond. First and third were moved to make it easier to determine fair/foul. https://sabr.org/journal/article/the-evolution-of-the-baseball-diamond-perfection-came-slowly/ Great read! 1
Velho Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 Thanks @Coach Carl Huh. So 1B and 3B are in the wrong spot because of poor editing / proofreading. Learned something new. Reminds me, with the larger bases BR got a 6 inch advantage. I haven't seen anything to say it mattered. I guess infielders quickly adjusted their internal clocks?
jimurrayalterego Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 2 hours ago, Coach Carl said: In the beginning, all the bases were centered on the points of the diamond. First and third were moved to make it easier to determine fair/foul. https://sabr.org/journal/article/the-evolution-of-the-baseball-diamond-perfection-came-slowly/ Yes it is a diamond, parallelogram, not a square rectangle. To keep @BLWizzRanger up at night.
BLWizzRanger Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 After reading that, I am awfully drowsy.... Just kidding. That was a good read. Thanks!
kylehutson Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 16 hours ago, jimurrayalterego said: Yes it is a diamond, parallelogram, not a square rectangle. To keep @BLWizzRanger up at night. Duh. We don't play on a "baseball square". 😁
Velho Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, kylehutson said: 17 hours ago, jimurrayalterego said: Yes it is a diamond, parallelogram, not a square rectangle. To keep @BLWizzRanger up at night. Duh. We don't play on a "baseball square". 😁 oh, nevermind... 2
Coach Carl Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 On 1/15/2025 at 8:04 PM, Velho said: Thanks @Coach Carl Huh. So 1B and 3B are in the wrong spot because of poor editing / proofreading. Learned something new. Reminds me, with the larger bases BR got a 6 inch advantage. I haven't seen anything to say it mattered. I guess infielders quickly adjusted their internal clocks? Actually, only 4.5" (between 1st and 2nd and between 2nd ans 3rd). https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/base-sizes 1
Replacematt Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 33 minutes ago, Coach Carl said: Actually, only 4.5" (between 1st and 2nd and between 2nd ans 3rd). https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/base-sizes Gee...not surprised someone claimed four and a half inches was actually six. 5
Velho Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Coach Carl said: On 1/15/2025 at 5:04 PM, Velho said: Reminds me, with the larger bases BR got a 6 inch advantage. I haven't seen anything to say it mattered. I guess infielders quickly adjusted their internal clocks? Actually, only 4.5" (between 1st and 2nd and between 2nd ans 3rd). https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/base-sizes Thanks for helping me see I mistyped 6" in referring to 1B getting 3" closer to home plate with no apparent impact.
Coach Carl Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 24 minutes ago, Velho said: Thanks for helping me see I mistyped 6" in referring to 1B getting 3" closer to home plate with no apparent impact. Oops, I missed your "BR" reference. It doesn't surprise me that there wasn't any apparent impact since F3 is also about 3" closer to the fielder. In fact, I'd argue it would help the defense as an infielder can throw a ball about 4-5 times faster than a runner can run. 1
Velho Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Coach Carl said: It doesn't surprise me that there wasn't any apparent impact since F3 is also about 3" closer to the fielder BOOM. That was the missing piece for me. Given that, the old infielder timing (you know that cool F6 that holds, pumps, shuffles and then finally throws) was close enough that they didn't need a recalibration.
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